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Mimo: I meant I am glad I was not gifted a Patek at 18, like some of those ads seem to suggest. If I was given a $20,000-$30,000 watch my first year of college, I doubt that it would have made it through those years... Now I am much more mature biggrin.gif
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And Roger, thank you for that interesting little lesson. To be honest, I never knew where the compax thing came from! Very cool.
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Newy, I get you now.  So it's probably time for Papa Frilly to sort out that "coming of age" gift, then?

 

By the way, in the great battle of the baller chronos, I feel I've rather missed out the Duometre Chrono (the Duometre moon discussion reminded me).  In platinum nearly-new for about $55k.  Now that's very pretty I think, and also has a most interesting behind.

 

But yeah, I'm still with Lange for the booty.  And VC for the value.

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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

I am digging the edited Patek advertisement. I think that a cross-over is certainly in order! But heck, if you are in need of a son to adopt to pass on your watches, I will gladly step in. I am about that age where I should be receiving my first Nautilus.

And I figured you would appreciate the new avatar. Everyone knows that Kate Upton is the TWAT mascot.

 

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Haha...Son of Frilly.  lol8%5B1%5D.gif

 

Mweeheeheeh.  Hey, Newcomer gave me an idea. In the spirit of stretching the tired old Patek ad campaign, I have modified my proposed copy.  Here it is:

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

+1 on Newcomer's new avatar!

 

As for watch ads, yes I think they could do a cross generational thing.  Maybe they are concerned that girls would not be as interested in their products, it might not suit they their style and appearance, and some might sell them to buy things they would rather own, or if its a big ticket model, it might pay off a good chunk of a mortgage (although a son who isn't into watches could do that too). 

 

In any event, I've grown tired of Patek's theme of passing it from one generation to another (we all get it, but for me its run its course).  I do think someone on another forum had a rather entertaining re-wording of their slogan a few years ago.  It was something to the effect of "You never actually own a Patek Philippe.  You merely pay for Henry Stern's future generations."

 

As for uniqueness of movement (and possibly beauty of movement) the vote definitely goes to Lange.  What you may notice if you look closely at the movements of the Patek and VC or check the specs, is that they share the same Lemania base (as does the 3970 for its chronograph function). Although, Patek made more modifications to the base in their 5070 than VC did for their Historique  (VC continues to use that movement, Patek does not).  I also believe a few high end such as Breguet and AP used the same base (in the past)...hence you could see it in a few other  top quality models from Swiss brands.   

 

+1 to Dino's comments as always har har har.  I love the Henri Stern's future generations line.  Funny factoid about the history of Patek, according to Stacy Perman's recently published book: when the company ran their business by catering almost exclusively to producing pieces for private collectors like James Ward Packard and Henry Graves, they put themselves largely vulnerable to the economic downturn during the Great Depression.  Too specialized, too limited production, one movement per piece produced (hey, how's that for uniqueness of movement?).  When they ran into trouble that's when the Sterns snapped them up, and the Stern family has steered that ship ever since, for good or for ill.  Do we really want Patek's pieces to be the exclusive domain of multibillionaires?  Even today their pieces are largely out of reach for the majority of the population, but compared to pre-1929 it was even less "democratized.'  

 

I mean, how could we whine about their rising prices if we couldn't even aspire to grabbing 'em? Heh heh.

 

I will give mimo props for the animated GIF he posted. But for overall "twerking" prowess and for introducing me to the unique loveliness of backsides I must give the crown to Queen B:

 

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Another home run man. Thanks for the education - did not know that about the subdials!
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Didn't realize that either, although I really like the looks of their vintage stuff and have read some things online really praising Universal's workmanship. I was in that 99.9% group.

RogerP ...thanks for that. Great story and I'm glad you were able to get that one "back in the fold".

Mimo, those are all awesome pieces. Of the three, just for personal preference, I really like the beauty of that Vacheron chrono.

And Mrs. Carter .... not too hard on the eyes herself.
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If we're going to make Kate the mascot then we need to include this here. 

 

 

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Thanks, guys - appreciate the thoughts on GO vs. JLC

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If we're going to make Kate the mascot then we need to include this here. 

 

 

In that run-off between the PP, VC and ALS proposed by mimo - hard for me to decide.  I'm usually a die-hard PP fanatic but there's something about the 5070's aesthetics (the cut off numerals, I think, that actually appeal to a LOT of others) that throw me off.  

 

(Pic from a TRF user):

 

 

The movements look equally lovely to me, although the ALS does "feel" more unique because of ALS's relatively low production numbers. I mean, as Dino944 has pointed out, the CH 27-70 used in the 5070 is a workhorse used in the 3970 and the 5970 too...


Still, I wouldn't throw this lovely thing out of bed if it sidled up to me.

 

 

Oh wait - I do have two of those lovelies keeping me company.  Sweet! biggrin.gif

 

Speaking of lovelies - Hayward, thanks for the contribution.  You're absolutely right: that Cat Daddy animated GIF deserves a thorough review.  As does this video, "The Many Talents of Kate Upton," also from the same Terry Richardson shoot.

 

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Speaking of avatars, I have an idea for one of you.

 

 

 

To get things back on track, Here is one of my 6309s after an experiment:

 

 

 

 

I figure this makes the bidirectional bezel more useful.

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My usual work watch these days:

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bhall41 - great watch. my brother wears the same one and its fantastic. a true classic.
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bhall41 - great watch. my brother wears the same one and its fantastic. a true classic.

 

Stitchy - I was beginning to worry about you today.  Why aren't you even in the top three for "most posts"?  Everything ok...?

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Thank you Scott, Dino and Newcomer.


Indulge me briefly while I address one of the most universally (if you'll pardon the pun) MIS-used terms in horology: Tri-Compax.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

99.9% of the planet misperceive the "Tri" as a reference to the Triple registers in classic 3-6-9 orientation.  That's not what it means at all. 

 

"Compax" all by itself denotes that layout in UG terminology.  See - it's right there on the dial of my 3-register watch above the 6 o'clock register.  Compax, not Tri-Compax:

 

 

So where does Tri-Compax come from?  Well, from the Triple-Date Moonphase version of the Compax chronograph.  See, it's right there on the dial above the 6 o'clock register:

 

 

 

So - UG Compax Chronograph = 3 registers laid out at 3-6-9.

 

UG Tri-Compax Chronograph = the above, plus a triple date and moonphase complications.

 

 

Roger thanks for the info on the Compax vs. Tri-Compax.  I've only seen a UG Compax once in person several years ago.  Even many years ago we never had any dealers for UG, so there was little to no information about them, and no brochures to give interested people information.  Great watch, hope you enjoy it.   

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Mimo: I meant I am glad I was not gifted a Patek at 18, like some of those ads seem to suggest. If I was given a $20,000-$30,000 watch my first year of college, I doubt that it would have made it through those years... Now I am much more mature biggrin.gif

I don't think that is the message I ever got from their ads. I never looked at is as some 18 year old would be gifted one in college.  I always presumed it was more like, your father will buy this watch, wear it for many decades, you will see him wear it for a long time and many years from now, maybe when you are middle aged or older he will give it to you or you will inherit it when he passes, and you will have good thoughts about it as you remember him wearing it.  I never thought, some college kid will be playing drinking games a frat parties with a  Calatrava or Perpetual Calendar on his wrist.  I think then, the advertising image instead of a father and son being on a boat or doing something together, might be a kid playing quarters at a frat house. wink.gif 

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

 

In that run-off between the PP, VC and ALS proposed by mimo - hard for me to decide.  I'm usually a die-hard PP fanatic but there's something about the 5070's aesthetics (the cut off numerals, I think, that actually appeal to a LOT of others) that throw me off.  

 

(Pic from a TRF user):

 

 

The movements look equally lovely to me, although the ALS does "feel" more unique because of ALS's relatively low production numbers. I mean, as Dino944 has pointed out, the CH 27-70 used in the 5070 is a workhorse used in the 3970 and the 5970 too...

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Still, I wouldn't throw this lovely thing out of bed if it sidled up to me.

 

 

Oh wait - I do have two of those lovelies keeping me company.  Sweet! biggrin.gif

 

 

 

 

Hopefully, your description of CH-27-70 as a workhorse is a bit of a joke.  Sometimes it can be tough to tell in a post.  While the movement in the Datograph is exclusive to ALS, I'm not sure I'd describe the Lemania movement used by Patek, VC, and others as a "workhorse", as that seems to have the connotation that its some how kind of plain, but gets the job done.  I often hear people call a Valjoux 7750 or various ETA movements good solid workhorses, and I see CH-27-70 as a very high quality movement that is beautifully finished, although a completely different look from those used in ALS's.

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

I don't think that is the message I ever got from their ads. I never looked at is as some 18 year old would be gifted one in college.  I always presumed it was more like, your father will buy this watch, wear it for many decades, you will see him wear it for a long time and many years from now, maybe when you are middle aged or older he will give it to you or you will inherit it when he passes, and you will have good thoughts about it as you remember him wearing it.  I never thought, some college kid will be playing drinking games a frat parties with a  Calatrava or Perpetual Calendar on his wrist.  I think then, the advertising image instead of a father and son being on a boat or doing something together, might be a kid playing quarters at a frat house.

Haha yes, I agree, that is definitely not normally the message. I was referring to (very particularly) a little short film they had on their website, where you saw the father with his newborn son wearing a nautilus (or may have been aquanaut), then you see the kid growing up, then he goes off to college I presume and the son has the nautilus on his wrist. That is how I remember it looking at least, but I could be completely wrong!

Maybe then should liven their advertisements up with some of your suggestions though! May be a little less stuff icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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