Wow... that Breguet is complicated! But I'd take the Stowa and buy me a new car and house with the 249K $ left...
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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 1432post #21467 of 483126/3/13 at 12:01pmpost #21468 of 483126/3/13 at 12:20pmQuote:I don't really see the RO o Nautilus as a step up over the Explorer 1. As sport watches, which is what I really want, they are inferior (not as legible and likely not as sturdy). What they have is interesting, singular design, in a style that appeals to me.Originally Posted by mimo
For all the wonders in this thread (and in dreamland, Lange is the maker that I get, well, "Frilly" about), I certainly get your taste. A simple black Sub is probably top of my list (GMT or Explorer possible alternatives), and some kind of alternative dress watch with small seconds - of which the Patrimony is a lovely example. The RO or even a Nauti are definitely appealing, but each a step up in turn so probably for the more distant future/titillation only.
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This is the VC that I want. It is no longer in production but I should be able to find it if I really looked:Quote:I continue to think it superior to every other dress watch I have seen.post #21469 of 483126/3/13 at 12:30pm^^ that VC truly is lovely ^^Quote:
yup, that is the 356 and it is for sale. no shoes on this one though.
here are some more pics.post #21470 of 483126/3/13 at 12:36pm
Magic 8 ball says . . . "very likely, only question is how far in the future."
As for outgrowing Pateks, I certainly haven't stopped lusting for them.
If I can ever justify the expense, I would definitely get one of these:post #21471 of 483126/3/13 at 12:54pmpost #21472 of 483126/3/13 at 1:30pm
+1Quote:Originally Posted by dopey
I don't really see the RO o Nautilus as a step up over the Explorer 1. As sport watches, which is what I really want, they are inferior (not as legible and likely not as sturdy). What they have is interesting, singular design, in a style that appeals to me.
This is the VC that I want. It is no longer in production but I should be able to find it if I really looked:
I continue to think it superior to every other dress watch I have seen.
As for RO and Nautilus, I think you are defining step up/over based on what you would use it for. I've owned a 114270 Ex 1 and a RO 15202 both are great watches. However, without a doubt the workmanship (fit/finish), labor involved in making (either a RO or Nautilus), overall quality, and finish of their movements are far superior to that of the Ex1. Compare an Ex1 to a RO or Nautilus and the differences are really quite obvious. Also, I've never suffered from nor heard of legibility complaints with RO or Nautilus models (unless maybe you are considering some of the complicated models rather than time only). I think it should be noted that although a RO or Nautilus are AP and PP's versions of sport watches...they are not pure sport watches...they are almost a hybrid of a sport/dress watch...falling somewhere in between.
As for sturdiness, I agree that I would not use a RO or Nautilus for any truly extreme sports. They simply are not sport watches in the way an Ex1 or Sub are. But I take really good care of my watches and probably would not wear a Rolex for something terribly extreme these days either. I used to beat the crap out of my first GMT Master and then a Daytona...and they could take it, but they looked like hell. Sure they can polish them up a bit a few times, but polishing causes them to loose their crisp beveled edges and even the best jobs are rarely the same as when it originally left the factory. I also learned that watches all beat to hell take a beating when you go to trade them in for something else. That being said, I think the Explorer 1 has a more rugged case (just 1 saphire crystal) and and bracelet. However, IMHO the fact that a RO or Nautilus are less rugged than an Explorer 1, does not make them (for lack of a better description) any less of a step above the Ex 1. Using just function as criteria one could say a Porsche 911 is not a step above a pick up truck because the Porsche won't hold much lumber. Durability is important and one should choose a watch appropriately for the activity, but it doesn't level the playing field.
The VC is a great dress watch. An acquaintance had one and it was beautiful. They made them for many years so it should not be that difficult to locate one.post #21473 of 483126/3/13 at 1:36pmDino:
You have it right - I think of a sport watch in terms of what I would want from it. Legibility, durability and reliability in tough conditions. Can I read it at dusk in the rain or at night, or at 4:00 inside a tent? Am I positive that, for all the beating it has taken, wet, cold, etc. the timekeeping remains accurate, etc. In that sense, I think of the Explorer as superior to the RO or Naut (and maybe even better than a quartz). I understand the ways that that a RO or a Naut is "better" than an Explorer, but in this category, those things are less important to me (repeat: to me).post #21474 of 483126/3/13 at 2:09pmNot to be pedantic but the Poor Man's Watch Thread is in Classic Menswear. It also has legitimate value in and of itself, though it could use better mentoring in taste. As we have seen in the last couple of pages, even Patek has come up with an incredibly tasteless wristwatch that is clearly aimed at the douche market.post #21475 of 483126/3/13 at 2:10pmpost #21476 of 483126/3/13 at 2:11pmpost #21477 of 483126/3/13 at 2:59pmQuote:dopey: This is the watch I will get when someone offers to buy me a watch. I saw it at Wempe when I was looking to buy a new watch (I was deciding between it and the JLC ultrathin) and I went home to think it over. Then the spirit that was urging me to buy a watch departed.
Also love this Piaget beauty as well:
(photo ripped from google)
The spirit still urges me, dopey....post #21478 of 483126/3/13 at 4:20pmpost #21479 of 483126/3/13 at 4:27pmQuote:
+1 for the 36mm Explorer I!!!Quote:
Whoa! I have become "adjectivified" (I think, if I remember my "grammer" correctly). What an honor. Wait. Imeldific is an "adjectivified" term too....post #21480 of 483126/3/13 at 5:04pm
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