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post #21421 of 48312

Great read..

 

Out of the list these caught my eye

 

  • Mühle-Glashütte Teutonia II Tag Datum
  • Frederique Constant Slimline Moonphase
  • Alpina 130 Heritage Chrono
  • Bell & Ross 123 Sport Vintage
post #21422 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

A couple new ones




Very nice! Congratulations are in order. I tried on the GP some time ago, but decided the case was a little too thick for me. A shame as I really liked its face. I hope both watches bring you much joy, and always a smile to your face with the passage of time.

As for your haikus... let me share something I've come to realise over the last few months.

I know that I've been less than complementary towards PAM in the past (scathing, actually), so this is going to sound weird - but I think I'm actually starting to get the whole PAM thing.

I was at a friend's place recently, shooting the shit with his dad. This man is a watch collector, with a few rare birds in his collection (anyone here know what a PP "hourglass" is?) and was fortunate to have been most active in collecting when things were still affordable - from the 70s to the early 90s. Bottom line is that he has a very nice watch collection. Anyway, this man's daily beater is, of all things, a PAM - a Radiomir 8 day power reserve to be exact. I was genuinely puzzled. Here was a guy who had all sorts of amazing watches, was able to literally choose from a tray of PPs, and he chooses for his daily wearer... a PAM? So I asked him about it.

He didn't say a word. Instead he took his watch off, and handed it to me. I strapped it on, looked down, and broke into a grin. A big grin. At that moment I realised that PAMs are the watch equivalent of a big juicy burger which just hits the spot and satisfies. Sure I wouldn't mind a gourmet cooked meal, made with finesse and care. But you know what? I couldn't eat that stuff every single day for every single meal. Some people can, more power to them. But sometimes I really do feel like a burger. Not a frou frou burger with an A5 wagyu patty, foie gras and gold leaf, but a honest to goodness burger with the works - 2 slabs of tasty mince, bacon, fried onions, a fried egg, lettuce, slabs of tomato, etc.

So like a burger, their appeal lies in their accessibility. This in turn explains a great deal of their success. There are douches all around us, and God knows lots of these douches choose to wear watches. God knows lots of these douches sport PAMs. But am I going to let the fact that the douche wears a PAM prevent me from recognising their appeal? Wearing one? Hell no. I'm going to wear what I like.

Hmm, I'm hungry now. Off to get a burger...
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welcome
post #21424 of 48312
Well spoken

This is how it usually starts. It's okay not to get the whole Panerai thing. But God help you if you do..


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He didn't say a word. Instead he took his watch off, and handed it to me. I strapped it on, looked down, and broke into a grin. A big grin. At that moment I realised that PAMs are the watch equivalent of a big juicy burger which just hits the spot and satisfies. Sure I wouldn't mind a gourmet cooked meal, made with finesse and care. But you know what? I couldn't eat that stuff every single day for every single meal. Some people can, more power to them. But sometimes I really do feel like a burger. Not a frou frou burger with an A5 wagyu patty, foie gras and gold leaf, but a honest to goodness burger with the works - 2 slabs of tasty mince, bacon, fried onions, a fried egg, lettuce, slabs of tomato, etc.

So like a burger, their appeal lies in their accessibility. This in turn explains a great deal of their success. There are douches all around us, and God knows lots of these douches choose to wear watches. God knows lots of these douches sport PAMs. But am I going to let the fact that the douche wears a PAM prevent me from recognising their appeal? Wearing one? Hell no. I'm going to wear what I like.

Hmm, I'm hungry now. Off to get a burger...
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Nice post, Apropos.  That's exactly how I felt when I tried one for the first time, last week.  It's kind of wrong.  Definitely douche-associated.  But like a lime green Shelby Mustang, as stupid as it is...the seven year old boy in all of us also thinks it's kind of awesome.

 

And let's face it, douches wear Rolex quite a lot too.  Or Omega.  Or whatever.  And do we care?  Do we fuck.

 

(RNG - you could be right...I've been thinking about it more than once...dropped by again the other night just to see one more time....ah shit...)


Edited by mimo - 6/2/13 at 11:00am
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i dont think there is anything inherently douchey about any brand in general.
post #21427 of 48312

Quite right.  I could well be a douche, according to some sources, and don't own a Panerai OR a Rolex.  It's a very inexact science.

 

But I'm fairly confident about Hublot.

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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

I know that I've been less than complementary towards PAM in the past (scathing, actually), so this is going to sound weird - but I think I'm actually starting to get the whole PAM thing.

I was at a friend's place recently, shooting the shit with his dad. This man is a watch collector, with a few rare birds in his collection (anyone here know what a PP "hourglass" is?) and was fortunate to have been most active in collecting when things were still affordable - from the 70s to the early 90s. Bottom line is that he has a very nice watch collection. Anyway, this man's daily beater is, of all things, a PAM - a Radiomir 8 day power reserve to be exact. I was genuinely puzzled. Here was a guy who had all sorts of amazing watches, was able to literally choose from a tray of PPs, and he chooses for his daily wearer... a PAM? So I asked him about it.

He didn't say a word. Instead he took his watch off, and handed it to me. I strapped it on, looked down, and broke into a grin. A big grin. At that moment I realised that PAMs are the watch equivalent of a big juicy burger which just hits the spot and satisfies. Sure I wouldn't mind a gourmet cooked meal, made with finesse and care. But you know what? I couldn't eat that stuff every single day for every single meal. Some people can, more power to them. But sometimes I really do feel like a burger. Not a frou frou burger with an A5 wagyu patty, foie gras and gold leaf, but a honest to goodness burger with the works - 2 slabs of tasty mince, bacon, fried onions, a fried egg, lettuce, slabs of tomato, etc.

So like a burger, their appeal lies in their accessibility. This in turn explains a great deal of their success. There are douches all around us, and God knows lots of these douches choose to wear watches. God knows lots of these douches sport PAMs. But am I going to let the fact that the douche wears a PAM prevent me from recognising their appeal? Wearing one? Hell no. I'm going to wear what I like.

Hmm, I'm hungry now. Off to get a burger...

 

Very well written post.  And I learned at least one thing, given my own predilections: you just taught me never to try a PAM on.

 

Otherwise, it might grab me by the neck and basically hold me at gunpoint... just like Jason Statham is doing with this guy...

 

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I shudder to think what damage Apropos and Frills would due if they picked up the Panerai sickness..

It would be a sight for sure.
post #21430 of 48312
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I shudder to think what damage Apropos and Frills would due if they picked up the Panerai sickness..

It would be a sight for sure.

 

Interestingly, I know someone who outgrew Panerai.  He used to have thirty-two Panerai watches, but said he'd grow listless wearing one of them that he'd switch out twice or thrice a day.  Sold them all off and now has two Pateks and two Langes as part of his weekly rotation.  He says "less is more."  Acquisition and disposition schedule probably helped along by the fact that he buys and sells watches for a living.

 

Who knows, perhaps he will outgrow his current stable too.  All part of personal evolution, I suppose.

post #21431 of 48312

Clever pic there, Frilly...no flies on you ;)

 

One has to wondering what out-growing Patek and Lange might entail.

post #21432 of 48312
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Interestingly, I know someone who outgrew Panerai.  He used to have thirty-two Panerai watches ...

I only have 1 and I never wear it anymore - and it's not like I have a lot of other watches. Interestingly, a guy I know in the watch selling biz told me that in his experience many people get so used to the larger size that they can't go back to their smaller watches, warning me that if I got a PAM I might lose interest in my sub.

But to the contrary, a year after geting a Luminor, I got a Mk XV (not only smaller than the PAM, but smaller than the sub too) and I now prefer both of these 'smaller' watches.

[SPAM] While I haven't made any effort to sell it as I still enjoy the look of it, if anyone in Copenhagen is interested in a PAM 177, feel free to drop me a PM. [/SPAM]
post #21433 of 48312
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

I shudder to think what damage Apropos and Frills would due if they picked up the Panerai sickness..

It would be a sight for sure.

it would be great for this thread.
post #21434 of 48312
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

One has to wondering what out-growing Patek and Lange might entail.

Going independent would be a good guess.
post #21435 of 48312
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Nice post, Apropos.  That's exactly how I felt when I tried one for the first time, last week.  It's kind of wrong.  Definitely douche-associated.  But like a lime green Shelby Mustang, as stupid as it is...the seven year old boy in all of us also thinks it's kind of awesome.
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i dont think there is anything inherently douchey about any brand in general.

I used to think that certain brands = douche brands and avoid accordingly, but over time I've come around to a different view, which succinctly expressed is: there are no douche watches, only douches who wear them.

Yes, certain brands hold more appeal for douches than others - e.g. IWC, Rolex, PAM - but this is part a function of their simplicity in accessibility both in terms of price, design, and marketing ethos, as opposed to some inherent brand douchiness. As opposed to a lime green Shelby Mustang it's probably one in red - tons of appeal, perhaps a less sophisticated audience on a whole, but undoubtedly much much more fun and drive-able than a delicate European make, which while more rare and beautiful, you consciously treat with more care/respect, and perhaps constantly repair (as one of my bosses is finding to his unending grief).

Feel free to substitute your own analogy as you see fit depending on your own proclivities - NASCAR vs Formula 1, draft IPA vs a fine Pinot, fun/flirty Californian girl-next-door vs Art History French exchange student girl, BBQ ribs vs filet mignon... this pattern repeats itself over and over again in life, and to bring it back to watches it's a lot easier to connect with some vague idea of general outsdoorsy sportiness and celeb appeal (Rolex today - not Rolex of yesterday) than polo playing specifically (Reverso). And like the descending limb of any bell curve, there are numerically less douches (perhaps not proportionally, heh) the higher up the disposable income brackets you go, so you're less likely to find a PP sporting douche than a Rolex sporting one, just as you're less likely to find a PP sporting regular guy than a Rolex sporting one.

Of course there are some amongst us who start with PP, and then move on to more esoteric big $$$ choices - more power to them (and my unending envy!) but these people are few and far between.

I still think you can tell a bit about a man's priorities based on his watch choice - e.g. the Master Ultra Thin perpetual calendar wearer vs the Leopard print Daytona wearer, the incredibly rich guy wearing a Casio, the poor guy wearing a fake Rolex - but I think the association is a lot looser than it used to be and is always superseded by his choice of dress, behaviour, speech, etc.

Anyway... Now I'm off to find a fun/flirty girl next door, and bring her out for some BBQ ribs and cold draft IPA. Who's with me? smile.gif
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