Wow...subtle, but I like! White face on steel is still the pick of the bunch I think.
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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 1351post #20252 of 483124/26/13 at 5:08am
Actually, I read this for the 5227, unsure about source but it was posted on TRF: "J is $35,400 and R/G $37,300"
Now, the 5127 (no date, no hinged caseback) has already been priced at $29,000 but over $30K, close to $40K for a no-complication Calatrava?
Well, okay, I guess there is that date and hinged caseback...post #20253 of 483124/26/13 at 5:33am
waitwut? you sure about that??? 32K for the most basic watch?!?!?!Quote:
agree. i had both and MUCH prefer the white dial.post #20254 of 483124/26/13 at 8:15amQuote:Very sorry to hear about that experience and the damage to the watch. I'd be cheesed as well. Unfortunately, that sounds about par for the course when dealing with Omega these days. Any independent watchmakers near you?Originally Posted by mimo
Ha. If you live outside a major market...hell, if you live outside the US or Europe, service is an eye-pulling, ball-crushing, motherfucking nightmare on stilts.
Last year I got my super-simple, scruffy, three hand vintage Omega put back together. Just a simple service, and replacement glass and crown, plus one non-original hand that had snuck in there about forty years ago. It was the ex-dealer who still had some parts and whatnot, and was able to do it for me. It was about $200 - plenty for just that, but probably as much as the watch is worth, just worth it for the sentimental value. I was delighted with it.
Two months ago I dropped the poor beast on the floor, smashed the glass and the movement stopped. Not wanting to take chances, I went straight to the new AD - a massive regional operation with about twenty brands including all the Swatch group and plenty of shittier designer stuff. Anyway, they sent it to their regional centre. Can't do anything. Then got me to undertake to pay insured shipping costs to Switzerland ($120-ish) - regardless of whether I accept the repair quote - and sent it away. After another month, I got an email: "We can't restore this as the dial is discontinued and this type cannot be restored". All I asked was for a new glass and check/repair the movement. So now I wait for a response to my angry-gram.
If that's what a manual-wind, three hand cheap vintage item does to you, I hate to think what I'd have to go through to service a Langematik, or, God forbid, fix one if it went wrong.post #20255 of 483124/26/13 at 8:28amQuote:Originally Posted by mimo
Now now...enough happiness, mutual respect and all-round sensibility.
Let's go back to the subject of silly Daytonas for a minute. My local AD has just ordered this, apparently (image lifted from his Facebook page)...getting lots of adoring comments, but I'm guessing this is where Belligero might draw the line. Stitchy...hard to say.
do not like, lol.
white face steel daytona is win as always.post #20256 of 483124/26/13 at 8:33amWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)Quote:Quote:
Thanks guys! I guess I was a little hesitant sharing personal information and feared it was out of place, but I'm glad yall enjoyed it!Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Quote:Originally Posted by Newcomer
Brief question Cylon:
I did not really recognize that you put such a large amount of thought into each watch. I guess my question is a "what came first, the chicken or the egg" one. When you bought the Speedy, was it the rugged Americanism that propelled you to get it, or is it through the benefit of hindsight that you realize what caused you to gravitate towards it?
I guess in response to your question, I just like the best of certain 'categories.' I am not saying that these categories make sense generally, but they make sense to me. As far as steel sports chronographs go, the Speedy is my favorite. Above the Daytona in my eyes. As far as I am concerned, the Speedy is the best in that category. Now lets turn to the JLC MUT Moon. I think this is the "best" in its category that I have delineated--a dress watch with a moonphase. That is what eventually steered me away from the GO PML. It was merely a placeholder in my eyes to a Lange 1 with moonphase.
That is one of the reasons I sold my Master Control. I loved it, but I wished it was a VC Patrimony. And if I got a VC Patrimony, the MC would have been sold.
Another example: I put AP RO, Nautilus, Daytona, Overseas, and the Ingy in a category.
This is one of the reasons I did not really care for the new Master Calendar. Is it beautiful? Yes. But I would always look at it and wish it was a Patek Annual Calendar.
And I definitely take this approach to many things in life.
My blue suede Alden penny loafers--I would not replace those with anything, there is no 'upgrade' in my eyes. On the other hand, if I was to buy some brown semi-brogues, I would be getting something from EG or G&G.
It is not the originality element that gets me, it is the staying power I guess.
When my wife got pregnant my thinking was along similar lines as the wedding (buy something nice to commemorate an event), but when we found out it was a boy, thinking evolved beyond simply commemorative into something I could actually give to him one day (i.e. for inheritance/posterity). I knew I wanted something a) different than a dress watch (already had a good one), and b) something masculine as it spoke to the notion of fatherhood as I've said, and c) history as this was for posterity! Now many watches can fit the bill (Rolex sub/GMT/explorer, AP RO for example all meet these criteria), but somewhere along the way I became quite pleased with the idea of having two "moon" watches, albeit ones with very different understandings of that term. This sort of internal consistency within my collection made me lean hard in the direction of the SMP. Add to this the deeper "identity" connection and I was sold. Honestly I cant even remember when it dawned on me that the Speedy Pro was the best symbol of good ol' USA in terms of horology because lets be honest I wouldnt have been happy with an RGM or a Hamilton, or even IWC to carry that load.
Without that symbolism, that poetry, I don't think I would have been able to pull the trigger. As Dino is fond of saying, its often the search rather than the purchase/ownership that is most enjoyable. I completely agree.
In short, I don't think the SMP screams 'murica, and it wasn't hindsight because I wouldn't have pulled the trigger until I was comfortable with my purchase.post #20257 of 483124/26/13 at 8:55amQuote:Nice. I consider the 1969 moon landing mankind's greatest accomplishment to date.Originally Posted by Cylon
[...]Without that symbolism, that poetry, I don't think I would have been able to pull the trigger. As Dino is fond of saying, its often the search rather than the purchase/ownership that is most enjoyable. I completely agree.
In short, I don't think the SMP screams 'murica, and it wasn't hindsight because I wouldn't have pulled the trigger until I was comfortable with my purchase.post #20258 of 483124/26/13 at 9:34ampost #20259 of 483124/26/13 at 9:41ampost #20260 of 483124/26/13 at 9:48ampost #20261 of 483124/26/13 at 9:59ampost #20262 of 483124/26/13 at 10:09amQuote:
also, it was actually a bracelet. or it used to be anyways.post #20263 of 483124/26/13 at 10:12ampost #20264 of 483124/26/13 at 10:40ampost #20265 of 483124/26/13 at 11:50amQuote:
Just when you think you know a little bit about something new, someone comes along and tramples it all underfoot...
Just kidding - thanks for the correction!Quote:Originally Posted by Cylon
I'm afraid my answer is slightly more narcissistic, and I'm not so sure I could boil it down to a single word as elegantly as Dino has done--though maybe narcissism is in fact the word I am looking for . I find my thought patterns revolve around the idea of purchasing a watch to symbolize various elements of my own identity. By this I mean something more than a simple dress-watch/sport watch dichotomy to reflect me "at-work" & "at-play"
Thank you for that. I really enjoyed reading what went through your mind with each watch purchase.
I was facetious on purpose with my earlier comment about the motivation for purchasing my Reverso - something which I understand might not have transmitted too well across the interwebz to readers of this thread. It was actually purchased to celebrate my recent engagement. I mean... only fair since she got a ring, right?
As I've mentioned before I was not attracted to the red dial initially, but then over a year or so I grew to love it. I guess it was a slow burning thing, not some intense crush destined to eventually fade away. I also really liked the idea of the most obvious bit of a watch referencing in a way the most obvious bit of my life partner - she is of the, uh, flame haired variety. And then after the purchase there was option (now taken) for customisation to make it truly "us". We discussed designs for weeks - not continuously of course but we did put some serious thought into it. Now it's away having magical things done to it, having our ideas made real through sheer magnificent skill, and I can't wait for it to be back. It won't just be any watch, but our watch.
And yes, she is also allowed to wear it.
Now... in other news - PP's first real design howler?
This actually bears an uncanny resemblance in a way to the first Reversos (and their recent Tribute brethren - look at the hour/minute markers), but not in a good way IMO. Look at the "curved" font in the day window! And look how the hands blot out the company name because of the quite inelegant power reserve placement. Yikes.
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