I agree. I like the standard edition too, but gdl203 made a valid point too regarding the patina. I dont know how I feel about it. And if I dont ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT then I shouldnt really be buying it right? If im not getting a decorated open caseback and a complication for ~8k...then sorry. Too many other good brands out there to choose from. It's one of the big reasons I dont particularly care for rolex ATM. Sure, they make nice watches and I respect their contributions to the watch industry but it seems like theyve been riding their history more than anything else right now (and why id consider a vintage 5513 before anything else--the new datejust II looks pretty sweet with its smooth bezel though). Tudor showed them up this year, though surely Rolex used their offerings as a test case.
I really think that is the crux of the matter. If the patina is not a driving point for you, then I really don't think that it is worth it. Personally, I don't really care for the hands too much on the limited editions either. And this is all coming from someone who is a HUGE Reverso fan. If I am going to be doling out that much cash for a watch, I guess I just want it to be a bit more "pure" if that makes sense. In the same light, I couldn't see myself doling out that much cash for a Bronzo PAM, or one of the "aged" Panerai vault designs. Vintage patina just seems like cheating. And the thing is, we really don't know how the watches of today will develop patina. I am sure that in the mid-80s, Rolex did not think that their black dialed Explorers would be crazed, or railed, or whatever those Rolex kids call it.
When it comes to vintage, I think that you either have to go vintage, or go for something like the Tudor Heritage Black Bay--something 'inspired' from a former era.
To be honest, I think that the attraction of these limited editions is that they are, in fact, limited--incredibly so. I read that article on Hodinkee the other day as well, and I was incredibly enticed by it. However, one has to wonder how much of the attraction is due to the fact that only 100 other people worldwide will have that watch on their wrist.
And Rolex... well, I just don't get it. At least their current models. I do agree with you on the new DJII though. Rolex's new models seem to traverse the line between tool and dress. I think that are better at doing one or the other. For what it is worth, I have developed something of a hankering for vintage Rollies. The 1016 Explorer, to be exact. That seems like a dangerous path to traverse, however.
Holy hell that page was pr0ntastic. I need to find myself a rich broad. I love all of them. The new Pano Reserve is a gigantic improvement. I think that the hour markers on the new model were a GREAT decision. I never really cared for the arabic numerals on the previous iteration.
I was eyeing the panoreserve first because I already have a moonphase, but the caseback on the manual wind is slightly disappointing. The rotor on the automatic coupled with the double swan neck decoration...fapfapfap
the panoreserve have the double swan neck too.
To me, nothing screams German like the 3/4 plate movement.
I thought about buying the PanoReserve when it hits the store.. But I've been saving up for a Lange 1 for so long. I'm really close on pulling the trigger. I'll probably break my GO cherry with the white gold Senator Chronometer. (you can sense my three-quarter plate love) The perfect L1 for me would be the 101.027x, the white dial with blue hands. Sadly, I haven't seen one for sale in almost 2 years now.
I mean unless you are getting that watch for $500 or something. I would pass, I'm not too crazy about that Omega. I wouldn't buy it just for the sake of having another watch. Are you looking for a white dial beater or something?
well yeah... it would serve as just that and from research I've done on TZ, WUS and eBay everything I've seen similarly is at least 50% more expensive (like $1,200-$1,500) and not in any condition I would even consider. I'm on my way to grad school and don't have anything like this as a durable beater that I could wear worry-free. I haven't been collecting very long and am not yet ready to pop on a JLC or GO or something in that range. My current pieces are vintage GP, Cartier, a few Hamiltons and a couple other oddballs I inherited from my grandfather so I was considering it. I know it's personal preference, but it fits well, looks nice on my wrist and overall I do like it. Just wanted some feedback... no worries... thanks Warren.
edit: to Cylon... $900 even.
also, I've been looking unsuccessfully for something to fill this gap for quite a while and will not have any time to do so in the coming year... seriously. So it seemed like a good mid-range, alternative.
I'm partial to the white faces for all of them (actually I prefer the black face on the senator observer), though I agree that the Panoreserve is sharp in black as well--the blue pop in the Moonphase is just really nice as opposed to the stark black on white on the panomaticlunar, IMO. It's tough--I love a moonphase (there's a certain romance to it) but the swooping lines of that the power meter brings to the panoreserve face are impressive. A bit cold perhaps, but very pleasing in a more minimalist sort of way. Actually I'm coming around on the black panoreserve--the texture of the dials makes it a bit less stark and gives it some depth, and I kind of like the stealth monochrome look of it all with the mostly black hands on black dial.
Get a Panoreserve then a Lange 1 moonphase? (I like the moonphase on the lange 1).
Educate me--what does 3/4 plate mean? Google wasn't much of a help. I'm guessing it has to do with the casebacks where I see 3/4 of the watch covered by a plate and 1/4 exposed, but I don't really know what that means.