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post #871 of 990


Church's for Jil Sander, 2-eyelet Plain Captoe Derby.
Almost as formal as the Oxford, IMO... esp. working in an engineering environment as I do, where I'm the only one who cares.
post #872 of 990
I think that three pairs of black cap toe oxfords will last me for quite a while. While the very nature of the shoe is conservative, not all are equally conservative. The papa bear of conservatism is my G&G:
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The mama bear of conservatism is my Vass:
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And the baby bear of conservatism are my Rozsnyai (my own design):
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post #873 of 990

I like the  Rozsnyai.

 

Although, I'm not sure whether shrunked (?) leather could still be considered as plain :D

post #874 of 990
Damn that G&G oxford looks wonderful. I was pondering about it years ago, but chose a rosewood semi-brogue...in hindsight, should have gone with the oxford.
post #875 of 990
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Originally Posted by globobock View Post

I like the  Rozsnyai.

Although, I'm not sure whether shrunked (?) leather could still be considered as plain biggrin.gif

This is actually their scotch grain (pebble grain). We debated between buffalo and exotics. We ultimately chose the middle course and I'm happy that we did.
BTW, who said anything about "plain"? 😀
post #876 of 990
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Originally Posted by brax View Post

I think that three pairs of black cap toe oxfords will last me for quite a while. While the very nature of the shoe is conservative, not all are equally conservative. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The papa bear of conservatism is my G&G:
photo image_zpsnwzkkazm.jpg

The mama bear of conservatism is my Vass:
photo D699F1BD_zpsa47b207c.jpg

And the baby bear of conservatism are my Rozsnyai (my own design):
photo image_zpstolkp6vd.jpeg

 

love the proportions on the rozsnayi !

post #877 of 990
While it's mentioned now, I will add that the water buffalo that Rozsnyai stocks looks very plain from head level, and up close the pores will stand out clearly.
post #878 of 990
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Originally Posted by brax View Post


This is actually their scotch grain (pebble grain). We debated between buffalo and exotics. We ultimately chose the middle course and I'm happy that we did.
BTW, who said anything about "plain"? 😀

Great choice, something different and still clean. Like very much that combo.

post #879 of 990

Pics of my LodinGs that I recently picked up!

 

post #880 of 990
Hi all

I've been following this thread for a fair while, and the OP's opinion regarding the Alfred Sargent is swaying me, so I'd love to get some advices.

I'm on the hunt for a pair of black Oxfords, and originally, I'm aiming for a pair of C&J Connaught on the 236 last. I currently have a pair of Weymouth sized 6.5 E on the 337 last, and thus similar to the Audley in terms of fitting. My other option is to go for the Alfred Sargent mentioned by the OP. Can anyone give me some advice from regarding fit for the Alfred Sargent in comparison to the Crockett and Jones Weymouth, many thanks.
post #881 of 990
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Originally Posted by VRaivio View Post

That's true: brogued or medallioned shoes have not been part of black tie decorum. Please note that black or white tie events are formal, set apart from the everyday by apparel as much as everything else.

What about a black wholecut with medallion? I foolishly let go of a beautiful pair (by C&J for New & Lingwood) a few years ago. There was something about them that seemed even more formal than the traditional black cap. Like the shoes of a courtier.
post #882 of 990
ˆDepends on the context, really...most people won't care that much, but some folks with a, let's say, traditional cultural pedigree will know better.
post #883 of 990
Yes, but "most people" won't care if you show up in Aldos. It's an interesting question because the general rule is that the less detail on the upper, the more formal the shoe. But you're saying this stops at the Oxford cap toe, at which point removing detail (cap and possibly throat stitch) decreases formality.
post #884 of 990
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Originally Posted by VRaivio View Post

While it's mentioned now, I will add that the water buffalo that Rozsnyai stocks looks very plain from head level, and up close the pores will stand out clearly.

Not sure if I agree. I think that their buffalo is quite subtle all the way around:
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post #885 of 990
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Originally Posted by atia2 View Post

What about a black wholecut with medallion? I foolishly let go of a beautiful pair (by C&J for New & Lingwood) a few years ago. There was something about them that seemed even more formal than the traditional black cap. Like the shoes of a courtier.

Your black wholecuts w/ medallion sound like an excellent choice paired with a dark suit for a dinner party or other nighttime engagement. But I would never consider pairing it with black tie.
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