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http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/8/12839758/apple-is-biggest-winner-from-killing-headphone-jack

"No one’s saying that Apple is wrong about wireless being the future. But the notion that it needed to remove the headphone jack now, and in this way, to improve the iPhone isn’t credible. Apple is advancing a vision of computing that lets it capitalize further on a quickly growing market, bringing headphones more firmly within the company’s ecosystem. What killing the headphone jack really does is help Bluetooth headphone companies. That makes it a business decision, and not much more."
post #2627 of 3215

Guys v important question be grateful for any guidance on... iPhone 7 Plus -- Jet Black, Matte Black, or Silver?  (I have always gone Silver with iPhones in the past...)

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Originally Posted by AloysiusSF View Post

Guys v important question be grateful for any guidance on... iPhone 7 Plus -- Jet Black, Matte Black, or Silver?  (I have always gone Silver with iPhones in the past...)

I would do matte black even if the shinny one looks nicer. The jet black model is expected to scratch easily.
post #2629 of 3215

I was thinking that as well (and the Matte Black from photos looks nice).... for the larger iPhone 7 Plus - any reason to go Matte Black vs. Silver/White Front outside of straight aesthetics?  A bit torn between those 2 color options...

post #2630 of 3215
I always go with a version that has a black front to it. The screen blends in better and the images pop out more.
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I always go with a version that has a black front to it. The screen blends in better and the images pop out more.

Oh I bet you do.
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Does it though? In military comms equipment the standard for audio jacks is some big twist to lock monster of a thing. 

post #2634 of 3215
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/8/12852098/belkin-apple-iphone-7-plus-adapter-dongle-charge-music?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Another goddamn $40 dongle to solve the charging and headphones at the same time issue.

Though not with the headphone jack, you'll need another dongle for your dongle for that.
post #2635 of 3215
God. This sounds like all the whining every time Facebook changes its interface.
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http://goldmanosi.blogspot.ca/2016/07/apple-calls-you-stupid-by-getting-rid.html
http://goldmanosi.blogspot.ca/2016/08/why-consumers-and-shareholders-should.html

I'm a long time Apple user and really wanted to like the 7 but I just can't get behind nixing the 3.5 mm jack, especially when there are so many downsides to me personally. I listen to music and care about sound quality so the Earpods and new Airpods just won't cut it. I already have a pair of high end wired headphones and I don't want to downgrade to Bluetooth ones that I'll have to charge all the time. I don't want to carry around various adapters and dongles to make everything work between my iPhone, iPad, and rMBP. Like many others, I am deeply entrenched in the Apple ecosystem so all I can do is wait and hope for something better to come along.
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The same company that eschewed a stylus now wants people to use a dongle.
post #2638 of 3215
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Originally Posted by JohnGalt View Post

The same company that eschewed a stylus now wants people to use a dongle.

 

That's a bit of a mischaracterization. They want you to use BT headphones. 

 

Stupid move though. Really dumb move. 

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Originally Posted by phosej View Post

http://goldmanosi.blogspot.ca/2016/07/apple-calls-you-stupid-by-getting-rid.html
http://goldmanosi.blogspot.ca/2016/08/why-consumers-and-shareholders-should.html

I'm a long time Apple user and really wanted to like the 7 but I just can't get behind nixing the 3.5 mm jack, especially when there are so many downsides to me personally. I listen to music and care about sound quality so the Earpods and new Airpods just won't cut it. I already have a pair of high end wired headphones and I don't want to downgrade to Bluetooth ones that I'll have to charge all the time. I don't want to carry around various adapters and dongles to make everything work between my iPhone, iPad, and rMBP. Like many others, I am deeply entrenched in the Apple ecosystem so all I can do is wait and hope for something better to come along.

The content in those two links is spot on and fairly well written. Thank you for sharing.

EDIT: Wanted to pull out some choice quotes I agree with.
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1. The headphone jack is outdated, like floppy disks and physical media.

Wrong. Your ears are analog, and that's not going to change. To hear music, it must at some point be converted from digital data into an analog waveform by a digital-to-analog (D/A) converter. That waveform is used to electrically move a piece of material that moves air against your eardrum. If the music player has a speaker (like every phone), it must contain a D/A converter. So that's not going away; Apple's just denying you the connection to it.

Now Apple wants everyone else to put redundant D/A converters in every listening appliance. Every headset, earbud, car stereo, home stereo, boombox, hotel-room clock radio, TV, portable amp, PA system. Yeah, this isn't just about headphones. It's about an entire planet's worth of sound reproduction equipment that does and always will have to deliver an analog waveform to your ears.

So no, this is not comparable to abandoning an obsolete format.

2. Removing the headphone jack will allow Apple to make the phone thinner.

This is a crock. The Lightning port is 3mm across. The headphone jack is 3.7mm across. And the iPhone's thickness will be dictated by the protruding camera lens.

We already covered this excuse above, and nobody is campaigning for thinner iPhones. To continue to push this played-out marketing gimmick embarrasses Apple and lends credence to the claim that they're out of ideas.

3. Almost everyone uses wireless headphones, proven by the fact that more wireless ones are sold now.

Lame strawman. Music players come with earbuds, so most people (sadly) will simply put up with them and not buy anything better. It stands to reason that those who do buy additional headphones are likely to buy wireless ones (because they already have wired earbuds, in case I need to spell that out).

But that doesn't matter anyway: The headphone jack doesn't prevent anyone from using wireless or digital headphones.
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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

That's a bit of a mischaracterization. They want you to use BT headphones. 

Stupid move though. Really dumb move. 

Of course, they're the #1 seller of them and margins are huge. Plus they can get licensing fees for anyone that goes wired to lightning.

Put me in the camp of those holding onto the 6 for the 8.
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