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post #2611 of 3200
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post

There is so much I want to say in this thread, but I'll shut up. Adapter included that will work my Shure and Sennheiser headphones. Ordering at the break of midnight. 128 in the non scratchy black.

I'm getting the 128 Patina Jet Black plus. Can't wait for dat airpods to launch in October!!

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post #2612 of 3200
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Instead of name calling me an apple fanboi as a cheap, lazy insult, I'd love hear your arguments instead.

Otherwise, your post is useless.

Touched a nerve did I? And I didn't say Apple fanboi.

I said AAPL fanboi, poking fun at the fact that the stock was down most of the day and after the announcement until the last hour, and now even further below yesterday's opening price. No argument here, that's what happened to the stock.

As you pointed out, it usually dips immediately after announcements and it might be happening now, I might jump in on it myself.
post #2613 of 3200
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Originally Posted by sonick View Post

Touched a nerve did I? And I didn't say Apple fanboi.

I said AAPL fanboi, poking fun at the fact that the stock was down most of the day and after the announcement until the last hour, and now even further below yesterday's opening price. No argument here, that's what happened to the stock.

You didn't touch a nerve. You called me an insult instead of contributing to a productive discussion. I'm not at all insulted because that is what you intended to do. I'm disappointed.

I'm just calling you out because I want this thread to be a place where people can share their opinions and thoughts without having to be called a fanboi.

It's, again, useless. Let's all be mature adults here.

And the stock is down today because Apple said they will no longer release weekend sales figures.
post #2614 of 3200
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

You didn't touch a nerve. You called me an insult instead of contributing to a productive discussion. I'm not at all insulted because that is what you intended to do. I'm disappointed.

I'm just calling you out because I want this thread to be a place where people can share their opinions and thoughts without having to be called a fanboi.

It's, again, useless. Let's all be mature adults here.

rolleyes.gif Is there some kind of Code of Conduct especially for this thread that is different than any other thread in Fine Living that I missed? Something that separates it from the bickering and 'dat ebonics' in Cars we Drive that you contribute to yourself?

If so, my apologies, but as far as I know, it's just as 'mature' here as any other thread.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Let's all be mature adults here.

I've never wanted to have a signature on the forum...but if I did, this would be it.
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Have you guys seen the smugness in MC?
post #2617 of 3200
For those who don't want to shell out the money to upgrade to a 7 but want to feel "courageous"

http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2016/09/07/apple-plug-kills-the-headphone-jack-in-your-existing-iphone-so-you-dont-have-to-upgrade/#gref
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There are a lot of people comparing the removal of the headphone jack to Apple dropping the CD drive or the switch to Lighting. I do not see these changes as comparable. When they dropped the CD drive on the Macbook Airs and Macbook Pro's both times came ushered in with new smaller and lighter hardware. When Apple presented the hardware they were able to use the fact that the devices were a lot smaller then the old ones in their narratives. It helped them tell a strong story for the change. Same thing happened when they dropped the 30-pin connector and switched to Lightning. We were presented with smaller phones and a narrative for the change that at least felt at the time that it made sense.

Yet yesterday they presented us new phones that dropped a major hardware feature that people have been using for decades and they did so with phones that are the same exact size dimensions as the old model. This fundamentally made Apple's narrative for the change feel a lot weaker. The reasoning they provided came across shaky at best. It was a failure in Apple's otherwise typical excellent marketing and spin machine. The story didn't ring true.

They should have waited till they were ready to release a completely new iPhone design and launched the change off of it. It would have still be painful, but at least the narrative for the change would have been stronger.
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

It is dated

 

Part of the definition of dated is obsolete. The 3.5mm jack is far from obsolete. 

post #2620 of 3200
The whole courage thing reminds me of ads for bland products that mention "design" as a selling point hoping that just by using the word, consumers will believe their design is special.

Like when Ford was pushing the five hundred as some beautiful design object like a Mercedes or bmw when it was actually one of the blandest designs even Ford could come up with.

But hey, if you repeat it enough times, consumers will believe it.
post #2621 of 3200
The proprietary nature of the lightning port is what really bothers me about it. If they nixed the headphone port and the lightning port and just changed to a USB-C, I'd be more inclined to be okay with it. But now having to buy headphones that are incompatible with every other piece of hardware in existence bothers me greatly.
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

The proprietary nature of the lightning port is what really bothers me about it. If they nixed the headphone port and the lightning port and just changed to a USB-C, I'd be more inclined to be okay with it. But now having to buy headphones that are incompatible with every other piece of hardware in existence bothers me greatly.

I'd love for them to switch to USB-C. Proprietary is one of the reasons they will stick with Lighting. The other is that it is smaller then USB-C.
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Sorry JrBrah: *than* not "then"
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

mouse, please download an app for differentiating between adverbs/adjectives and conjunctions. this has gone on too long

He's incorrigible

Jesus Christ , @Jr Mouse... Are you trolling intentionally now ?
post #2624 of 3200
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Jesus Christ , @Jr Mouse... Are you trolling intentionally now ?

You really must be bored lately.
post #2625 of 3200
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

The proprietary nature of the lightning port is what really bothers me about it. If they nixed the headphone port and the lightning port and just changed to a USB-C, I'd be more inclined to be okay with it. But now having to buy headphones that are incompatible with every other piece of hardware in existence bothers me greatly.

Me too. The Lightning headphones won't work with a MacBook which is very inconsistent for a company that tries to make things as seamless as possible between devices.

The more I think about it, there just has to be some sort of teeny tiny DAC in the $9 Lightning to 3.5mm adapter. Virtually every headphone with a Lightning cable currently on the market (Audeze, Sony, Philips, Brightech, etc.) either advertises their built-in DAC or mentions 24-bit audio. The DAC built into the iPhone 6 doesn't support 24-bit, so these headphones must have their own DAC as well. The adapter is compatible with any iOS 10 device, including the iPhone 5, so there isn't any sort of new technology at play here. As I don't see how a digital port like Lightning could possibly be transmitting analog, all current headphones have their own DAC, and the adapter works with previous versions, it seems like there must be a DAC in the adapter. I'm sure some blog will have a tear-down once they are available and then we'll know for sure.

Apple seems to be punting on the higher end audio market. It doesn't make a lot of sense to plug $500 headphones into a $2 DAC. I wonder if the cable is a sort of after-the-fact design decision, and that's why it is so cheap without the usual Apple mark-up. Just speculating, but I could easily see Jony Ive wanting the iPhone 7 to go completely wireless out of the box, but somebody realized the backlash they would face if no one could use their existing headphones so they stuck the adapter in there too.
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