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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

I've come to agree that it's a bit too early to remove the headphone jack, especially in the context of the radically re-designed iPhone 8 coming out next year. It's rumored to have no more home button and be completely redesigned. Why not wait the one more year to remove the headphone jack and release killer bluetooth headphones in the meantime? Consumers will probably find it much more palatable to not have it anymore when the phone itself looks so different and (hopefully) really good.

Now that I think about it, not sure why they would push to remove it this year with the iPhone 7 not being radically different. It just gives consumers another reason to not buy the new phone. Maybe they'll have an awesome trick up their sleeve but I doubt it.

Great points. I do wonder if they're testing the waters. The 2016 iPhone has very little to lose because it should be just an incremental update. It seems that might be the logic. Apple can say the lack of a headphone jack is the salt in the salad with this update.

An OLED, more Intel, new form factor iPhone next year should be great.
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Great points. I do wonder if they're testing the waters. The 2016 iPhone has very little to lose because it should be just an incremental update. It seems that might be the logic. Apple can say the lack of a headphone jack is the salt in the salad with this update.

An OLED, more Intel, new form factor iPhone next year should be great.

I think the opposite -- the 2016 iPhone 7 has a whole hell lot to lose. I sincerely hope the rumor mill has been trolling us because it's not looking to be an exciting update at all. I'm nervous as an investor too because I've never seen such frequently mentioned public commentary around "yeah, I'm skipping the 7 because of XYZ."

That said, removing the headphone jack does seem to have allowed Apple to stuff a 26% larger battery and if iOS 10 is optimized + A10 is super efficient, maybe we can see 12-14 hour battery life. That would be pretty nice.

John Gruber said it best: if you're going to remove the headphone jack, you have to replace it with something truly great. Giving people a dongle adaptor is not that, nor is providing lightning wired earbuds. They're going to have to provide some bluetooth earbuds that are better than the average pair out there.

And if my read on the general public re: ear buds is any bit accurate, the deciding factor will be battery life more so than sound quality. I used to own Shure in-ear buds that were like $300. They sounded amazing. Unfortunately I lost them when I was wasted. Now I just use the apple ear pods and they get the job done just fine when I'm at the gym or listening to music at my desk during work.

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Anyone here with an Apple watch getting sweat rashes lately? Weather has been hot and humid and I've noticed some rashes swelling up where the watch sits. Second time this has happened this season.
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Who owns an Apple Watch?*

*former owner who is the thankful to the sucker on eBay who purchased it off me.
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It's been pretty handicapped until watchOS 3. The most useful functionality for me is for tracking my exercise. Granted, I only do weight lifting which it can't track per se, but it's useful for logging when I work out.

I also really like how it looks. I have a knock off stainless steel link bracelet from amazon and it looks pretty ace with it.

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I had a dream last night that I chatted up an apple employee into showing me a production version of the 7 -- in the box and all -- under the premise that I needed to check if I'd be allergic to it. I dunno. Don't ask.

She showed me the box and let me open it. Inside were a pair of earbuds wrapped around their signature plastic casing and I was all *womp womp* until I thought to unravel it.

They were Bluetooth buds in the style of jay birds where the controller houses the battery!!

I snapped pix and leaked it to the rumors websites and become a hero.

srs.

My life: 😑
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Smh
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I think Apple could be more proactive in pushing standardization for the watch. For example, it would be more useful if it interacted with bicycle computers or tracked the years of my life wasted sitting on a couch rewatching Tropic Thunder, Seinfeld, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Breaking Bad, or anything Daniel Day Lewis has been in.

Alas, the technology is clearly not there yet :/.
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Can anyone on Sierra log into Yahoo using Safari? 

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Can anyone on Sierra log into Yahoo using Safari? 

I hate to say it again; as powerful as macOS is - Safari still lags behind Chrome. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, WebKit is super standard compliant, but even Google has forked it a few times to work with shitty websites. I think Apple feels like their pride is on the line and won't do it.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post


John Gruber said it best: if you're going to remove the headphone jack, you have to replace it with something truly great. Giving people a dongle adaptor is not that, nor is providing lightning wired earbuds. They're going to have to provide some bluetooth earbuds that are better than the average pair out there.

He's correct except for the simple fact that Apple could release these mystical excellent earbuds even if the headphone jack would still be included on the phone.
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Regarding the Watch, i'm starting to notice more people wearing them these days. What I have not noticed? Anyone actually interacting with the devices. I don't think I have seen a single person actually do anything with the Apple watch other then wear it as status symbol jewelry. In contrast, I see people use and interact with their phones all the time.
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

Regarding the Watch, i'm starting to notice more people wearing them these days. What I have not noticed? Anyone actually interacting with the devices. I don't think I have seen a single person actually do anything with the Apple watch other then wear it as status symbol jewelry. In contrast, I see people use and interact with their phones all the time.

Yeah, same here. They're a dime a dozen these days. However, the only useful thing it has going for it, Fitbit does better. The time keeping thing you wear on your wrist status part, JLC, IWC, and Patek do it better tongue.gif.

Even here in the valley, I never see people use it to pay at a store or do anything of note on it.
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

Regarding the Watch, i'm starting to notice more people wearing them these days. What I have not noticed? Anyone actually interacting with the devices. I don't think I have seen a single person actually do anything with the Apple watch other then wear it as status symbol jewelry. In contrast, I see people use and interact with their phones all the time.

I'm not surprised at your findings though. It's not meant to be interacted with extensively like one does with an iPhone.

Having your wrist up so you can doodle with it is uncomfortable after a while.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

I'm not surprised at your findings though. It's not meant to be interacted with extensively like one does with an iPhone.

Having your wrist up so you can doodle with it is uncomfortable after a while.

What's the point of spending all that money on a smart watch if you don't use the "smart" features? Text messaging, emails, etc? If you are going to just pull out your phone to do those things then save the cash and buy yourself a fitbit and a nice automatic watch.

Unless something big feature wise changes over the next year or two, I could see the sales of the watches tanking as current owners realize they never actually use the damn things for anything meaningful.
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It's all even more absurd when you recall that GF is a Blue Spark owner. 

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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

What's the point of spending all that money on a smart watch if you don't use the "smart" features? Text messaging, emails, etc? If you are going to just pull out your phone to do those things then save the cash and buy yourself a fitbit and a nice automatic watch.

Unless something big feature wise changes over the next year or two, I could see the sales of the watches tanking as current owners realize they never actually use the damn things for anything meaningful.

I don't care for those smart features at this point. The watch is gonna serve as a platform for health capabilities.

Once they nail down AI and good voice recognition to the point where Siri isn't all but useless, then I think those smart features you mention will become more usable.

But for now, I agree they suck.
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