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@lawyerdad, the other comment you quoted was a response to someone implying that the results of this Superbowl would somehow affect arguments about whether Brady / Manning is better. If that second ring in a year when Manning has played poorly really puts him in a different conversation regarding his legacy / all time great status, it logically follows that rings and postseason matter a lot. If that's the criteria, Brady clearly wins and its not even close. It was intended more as a "let's take this to its conclusion" sort of thing than an affirmative statement that I personally believe championships / playoff success is the strongest determination of which QBs are the best.

I do think that rings are relevant as are total playoff wins, but they obviously don't tell the whole story. I would, for example, put someone like Dan Marino a good bit ahead of a number of QBs who have one or more Superbowl rings.

Yep, that all makes sense to me. I probably land in roughly the same place as HRoi on this, and I'd say each of those guys you mentioned is fairly part of the conversation.
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Now what the hell am I going to do with my Sundays for 7 months? Depressing thought.
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baseball/basketball.

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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

baseball/basketball.

Baseball? GTFO of here.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Yep, that all makes sense to me. I probably land in roughly the same place as HRoi on this, and I'd say each of those guys you mentioned is fairly part of the conversation.

Joe Montana.

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baseball/basketball.

This. Especially because the Astros are such a fun young team to watch. I view them on Fox SW when I'm not enriching my mind with Westerns and crime novels.
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
when I'm not enriching my mind with Westerns and crime novels.

Michael Connelly?

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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post

Joe Montana.
Who?
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Cam is a child. The only thing worse than him using the "I am who I am" excuse, is the fact that other sports commentators are backing him on that. If part of who you are means being a childish unprofessional, who is being payed tens of millions, and part of your job description is acting like a man even when the chils dont fall your way, perhaps you need to change "who you are" a little bit.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Cam is a child. The only thing worse than him using the "I am who I am" excuse, is the fact that other sports commentators are backing him on that. If part of who you are means being a childish unprofessional, who is being payed tens of millions, and part of your job description is acting like a man even when the chils dont fall your way, perhaps you need to change "who you are" a little bit.

Indeed. At first, I was willing to cut the guy a bit of slack. Losing the Superbowl sucks and playing your worst game at the worst time is rough. That said, "I am who I am" as an excuse annoys me to no end. First, it's basically a tautology and a particularly stupid one. Of course you are who you are, but that doesn't tell us anything useful. It's also not an excuse to behave badly or not engage in self improvement. The overwhelming majority of NFL players out there hate losing, but most have learned how to handle it.
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Media doesn't seem to be really attacking that much over it (other than The Jim Rome -types).

When LeBron and others do it, they get crucified
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Cam is a child. The only thing worse than him using the "I am who I am" excuse, is the fact that other sports commentators (and his coach as well) are backing him on that. If part of who you are means being a childish unprofessional, who is being payed tens of millions, and part of your job description is acting like a man even when the chils dont fall your way, perhaps you need to change "who you are" a little bit.

Can I add like a billion thumbs to this? Exactly Stitchy. fing02[1].gif (I added underlined portion)
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By all means, please do. smile.gif

Agree to underlined portion of course.
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My plan is to follow the presedential election super closely.
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Who?
Blow me.
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