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LOL 49ers.
Let me guess, Shanahan?
eidt: Fuck, even worse.
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The Divisional Round is my favorite round of the NFL playoffs: four games with teams that have legitimate chances to win the Super Bowl. Of the underdogs, I like Kansas City's chances the best. Sure, there's a good chance that Andy Reid is gonna Andy Reid. But the Chiefs' pass rush vs. the Pats' offensive line is something that would worry me if I was a Pats fan.
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So apparently the city of St.Louis still owes 100MM on the stadium the rams just left an empty stadium

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St. Louis really fucked up on their lease negotiations with the Rams when they did their upgrades if the Rams can leave before the debt is paid.
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@Gibonius:

Exponent’s Mistakes Affect Outcome

The Wells Report made numerous errors in its scientific analysis of Deflategate. In fact, nearly everything in the transient analyses, shown below, is wrong. This led to an incorrect conclusion that science could not explain the drop in Patriots pressure. However when the errors are fixed, the Patriots footballs can be explained by natural causes, regardless of which gauge referee Walt Anderson used to measure the footballs before the game.
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Conclusion
After correcting the mistakes in the Wells Report, the Patriots averages overlap with the transient curves 4 to 4.5 minutes into halftime on both the Logo and Non-Logo transient curves. Therefore there is a scientific explanation for the measurements no matter which gauge was used to measure the footballs before the game.
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Why should I believe something from the wellsreportmistakes.com website? That sounds really impartial.

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Fer real though, can you comment on the methodology or whatever?
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Why should I believe something from the wellsreportmistakes.com website? That sounds really impartial.

I would point out he's hardly the first person who has looked at some of the science/data and not come away saying the Wells Report was fundamentally flawed.

Maybe what I'm saying is: did the Patriots cheat? I'd say no, obviously. But a perhaps more charitable response is: the Wells Report does not show that they did.
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So Bob Kraft decides to give up draft picks for no good reason?

There may not be smoke, but something sure smells funny.
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So Bob Kraft decides to give up draft picks for no good reason?

something sure smells funny.

Maybe. But the owners all work in cahoots with each other on issues big and small trading favors down the line for everything.

A question for you: as a lawyer if you had a client where everyone who takes a genuine, critical look at the prosecution's sole report finds it deeply flawed and debunked and the preponderance of evidence is nowhere near the prosecution's side, you would pounce like crazy in that case. And that's basically what;s going on here.
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I wouldn't say the Patriots flat out cheated with the under-inflated balls but probably operated more in the grey area. Tom most likely didn't flat out say to his equipment guys "deflate the balls" but more of a "these balls are kind of hard I'd prefer them a little softer" at some point while working with them. The equipment guys probably made them as soft as possible without being severely under-inflated.
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So Bob Kraft decides to give up draft picks for no good reason?

Hold on while I go throw away my phone too.

 

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A question for you: as a lawyer if you had a client where everyone who takes a genuine, critical look at the prosecution's sole report finds it deeply flawed and debunked and the preponderance of evidence is nowhere near the prosecution's side, you would pounce like crazy in that case. And that's basically what;s going on here.

Flawed = / debunked and false.

 

While i personally couldnt care less how inflated the balls are, at some point you have to just admit that it happened, and move on. Do I think its worth a 1st round pick? Nope. But I would like their fans to stop acting like the patriots didnt do anything wrong either.

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I wouldn't say the Patriots flat out cheated with the under-inflated balls but probably operated more in the grey area. Tom most likely didn't flat out say to his equipment guys "deflate the balls" but more of a "these balls are kind of hard I'd prefer them a little softer" at some point while working with them. The equipment guys probably made them as soft as possible without being severely under-inflated.

But that's the thing, there's a range of accepted pressure so it's not really that big a deal if they fall within a spectrum (a pressure level which, as the link above demonstrates, can just happen naturally meaning they're free of wrongdoing).
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But I would like their fans to stop acting like the patriots didnt do anything wrong either.

Well that's the thing, the basis of the complaint was the Colts going--oh hey, these balls feel underinflated compared to ours. There was never work done to see if the Colts balls were overinflated, the balls were mishandled and poorly tested during the game, and the more and more people look at the Wells Report the harder it is to accept its findings. Does that mean they didn't cheat? As you said, no. But to continue to grasp at straws and just put up blinders and say nope, they cheated no other way about it is irrational and grasping at straws.

Maybe the reason Pats fans won't give it up is that losing draft picks has a very real possibility to sink a team for a while and there's unwarranted reputation damage. Yeah, that might be it.
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Maybe the reason Pats fans won't give it up is that losing draft picks has a very real possibility to sink a team for a while and there's unwarranted reputation damage. Yeah, that might be it.

 

I'm with you that the punishment is too harsh. You have a limited amount of time left with Saint Brady, need to be productive while he's there

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