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post #4021 of 5290
Don't think Goodell would get the green light from the owners to go after Peyton.
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Shouldn't there be a therapeutic exception to the rule? If a doctor recommends HGH therapy as a way to heal more quickly and completely without going all Ronnie Coleman, what's the problem? 

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Shouldn't there be a therapeutic exception to the rule? If a doctor recommends HGH therapy as a way to heal more quickly and completely without going all Ronnie Coleman, what's the problem? 


Completely opens the door up to TRT doctors etc. It's not that hard to find a doctor to prescribe something. Though, for my money, I'd like to get rid of all the PED rules.
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Shouldn't there be a therapeutic exception to the rule? If a doctor recommends HGH therapy as a way to heal more quickly and completely without going all Ronnie Coleman, what's the problem? 

The doc can't do that, HGH is indicated only for a handful of conditions and idiopathic short stature.
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I look forward to a decade of sustained mediocrity from the Giants in wake of this news.

As opposed to now?

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Either you think using banned substances is something to give a fuck, or you don't.

I GAF. It's cheating and immoral with the potential for serious abuse and damage to players' bodies (in any sport). That said...
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Please correct me if I have any of this wrong:2. At the time he allegedly took HGH, there was a lockout and there was no CBA in place governing what players can and can't take, which completely negates #1 anyway.

This is all that matters. He violated nothing at the time of taking it.
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God damn it, there's nothing more depressing than finding that I agree with pretty much everything edina says in one of his posts.
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As opposed to now?

I mean, they've won two Super Bowls in the last ten years. How many teams would kill for that? Better than anybody else in the NFC East, for sure.

Coughlin's tenure was weird. Certainly not a Belichick style sustained excellence, but those Super Bowl runs were all most fan bases really want out of their teams.
post #4028 of 5290

Jerry Reese should've been fired too. Outside of a handful of picks, his drafts have been trash.

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Coughlin's tenure was weird. Certainly not a Belichick style sustained excellence, but those Super Bowl runs were all most fan bases really want out of their teams.

The maudlin "thank you Coach Coughlin" FB post by my Giants-loving ex-girlfriend supports this conclusion.
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Just another hater. I'll add you to the list.

Gladly.

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Originally Posted by Neo_Version 7 View Post

Don't worry. As soon as Green Bay is eliminated, Steve should revert back to "Go, Spurs, Go!"

It WILL then be basketball season. And after the Spurs have won chip number six, it will be baseball season, and I'll put Buster up again.


The Packers' record for NFL titles will not be broken as the Bears didn't make the playoffs.
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God damn it, there's nothing more depressing than finding that I agree with pretty much everything edina says in one of his posts.

Kill yourself.

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I mean, they've won two Super Bowls in the last ten years.

Correct, one of which was a complete fluke and not entirely reflective of them being even one of the better teams in the league that year.
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Correct, one of which was a complete fluke and not entirely reflective of them being even one of the better teams in the league that year.

You don't make the playoffs, get all the way to the super bowl, and knock off one of the best teams in history without being pretty good. . . Seems pretty petty of you :confused:

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Correct, one of which was a complete fluke and not entirely reflective of them being even one of the better teams in the league that year.

Even fluke Super Bowl runs aren't that easy to come by. A fluke season in Redskins-land is winning the NFC East with 9 or 10 wins and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Cowboys too, for that matter.

Looks like those championships don't give a lot of leeway for a mediocre product. Five years is a long time in football, but are the Giants really more likely to win with a new coach vs hoping Coughlin stumbles into another fluke run? Hard to say.
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You don't make the playoffs, get all the way to the super bowl, and knock off one of the best teams in history without being pretty good. . . Seems pretty petty of you confused.gif

This turns into one of those questions about what the "real" Coughlin Giant's teams were. The two "fluke" Super Bowl championships, or the various runs of mediocrity surrounding them?
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Eh, it isn't really that petty. It takes a lot of luck to go 17-0 in a season and it takes a lot of luck to be 9-7 in the Superbowl. I just don't think you can genuinely say they are tied as the second-best team of the last 10 years is all. They're in the middle of the pack at best.
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Eli Manning: most clutch Super Bowl quarterback of all time. What up.

 

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