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post #3196 of 4994
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Originally Posted by Texasmade View Post

1. It's not really a holdout since he's not under contract. It's his right to not participate in any offseason OTA's to prevent injury while he's a free agent. The Cowboys franchise tagged him basically preventing him from negotiating with any other team.

2. That's because they just get cut or don't hit incentive bonuses so there's no need for a player to demand to be paid less when they under perform.

#2 is wildly overstated.
post #3197 of 4994
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

I hate football and their tradition of holdouts. (Not just this one)

Such BS. Guys hold out because they did really well over the past season (or maybe past two), and demand a raise. Have yet to see a player demand they be paid less after a shitty season though.

the thing is... NFL contracts often get confused with MLB or NBA contracts, which are guaranteed. NFL players don't have guaranteed contracts.

Only a select few NFL players actually get much guaranteed money.... most often than naught the team has the right to just drop a player if they aren't performing well or due to disciplinary actions.

So if a player is performing well (or even above his salary level) his only recourse to hold out because he might suck for 4 games and the team might just drop his ass and he gets squat.

MLB and NBA players? they get their money no matter what.... look at alex rodriguez caught red handed and even admitted to PED use, even if the yankees wanted to they'd need some superpower lawyers and years of litigation to even get a 1% chance of winning a case against the MLB players association (union) that motherfucker is going to get every cent of his $275,000,000.00 contract even if he sucks and/or gets injured.
post #3198 of 4994
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

#2 is wildly overstated.

Tell that to all the guys who get cut every year even though they have a contract.
post #3199 of 4994
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Originally Posted by cross22 View Post

Yes, how dare people expect a raise after a few good seasons when their contract is up for renewal. They should just STFU and work for the same money. Oh and they absolutely get less money after bad seasons when their contract is up.

hmm.. not sure you read my comment properly. I said (not just specifically this contract) and was talking about holdouts when they are under a current contract.

 

You also read (or probably misread on purpose) the second part incorrectly.

post #3200 of 4994
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Originally Posted by Texasmade View Post

Tell that to all the guys who get cut every year even though they have a contract.

I don't have their numbers. Maybe you can just refer them here?
post #3201 of 4994
I don't have their numbers. All you need to do is look at the waiver wire on everyone who got cut if you want to find out who.
post #3202 of 4994
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post


Steve B: yes. While it's true that HIPPA regulates health care oroviders and not reporters per se, I'm not sure that there couldn't be a private right of action against a non-health care provider who induced a violation by, say, bribery or whatever. Not my area, though. Piobaire ot Hopkins might actually know better than me.

Not completely my area either, but it would probably fall under public disclosure of a private fact, whether it was medical or not, he is a public person of interest…. PDPF cases in this regard are almost impossible to win. Not sure of the particulars LD is referring to in how he got his hands on it vis-à-vis the hospital, but just generally speaking these days once something is out it's out.
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post #3204 of 4994
With financial security finally all hammered out....time to go get in trouble! laugh.gif
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More importantly - you look at yahoo news? 

post #3206 of 4994
I look at all types of news feeds/wires/sources. I just happen to see that via Yahoo first.
post #3207 of 4994
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

Not completely my area either, but it would probably fall under public disclosure of a private fact, whether it was medical or not, he is a public person of interest…. PDPF cases in this regard are almost impossible to win. Not sure of the particulars LD is referring to in how he got his hands on it vis-à-vis the hospital, but just generally speaking these days once something is out it's out.

Yeah, I was just speculating that to the extent there are penalties or private rights of action for HIPAA violations per se (as opposed to PDPF generally), I could imagine some sort of secondary liability if the manner of actually obtaining the records somehow rose to an inducement of a statutory violation by a health care worker with primary statutory liability. No idea, though, really. But I was thinking strictly in terms of whatever liability might attach to the actual statutory violation in communicating the health care info outside the authorized circle -- I'd assume (but again, don't specifically know) that violation is established by the initial breach of confidentiality, regardless of any downstream subsequent disclosures or publications. I agree that any potential claim based on the more public disclosure is probably trickier, not the least of which because of potential First Amendment defenses.
post #3208 of 4994

anyone down to do a SF FF league for this coming season? Prefer auction drafts if putting money down.

post #3209 of 4994

Suck it, Tom Brady. 

post #3210 of 4994
This is bullshit. I hope the Pats go 4-0 during the suspension. Fuck you, Rog.
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