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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Winston reminds me a lot of Big Ben, down to the off-the-field issues. If he can keep those issues to a minimum, I think he'll be a pretty good pro. He doesn't have the problems that have plagued recent high-profile QB busts: He can run a pro-style offense, he is well-regarded by his teammates, and he has passion for the game of football.

and they're also both rapists... so yeah, I see the resemblance.

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This Wells report is bogus btw

Because all reports are bogus. nod[1].gif
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Wells Report is a joke. 4 months of investigation to get phrases like "more probable than not" and "generally aware." Roughly translated, I read that to mean "we wasted a lot of money and have no actual proof of wrongdoing."
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I met a girl who works for a law firm that is handling something to do with this. She was very obnoxious and way too proud of  being involved. 

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Everyone knows the Patriots' balls are more than adequate.
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post

Wells Report is a joke. 4 months of investigation to get phrases like "more probable than not" and "generally aware." Roughly translated, I read that to mean "we wasted a lot of money and have no actual proof of wrongdoing."

"more likely than not" and "constructive knowledge" (e.g. generally aware) are legal terms that have meaning to people who deal with these things… people like attorneys. Perhaps you find that unsatisfying.
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

"more likely than not" and "constructive knowledge" (e.g. generally aware) are legal terms that have meaning to people who deal with these things… people like attorneys. Perhaps you find that unsatisfying.

I'm well aware of what the terms mean. I think my interpretation of them in the context of the report still applies. Your opinion on the matter may differ.
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I think what most people were looking for was for this report to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.  This report comes nowhere close to doing that.  I'm fully aware that this is not a criminal investigation and that reasonable doubt only applies to criminal investigations, but some certainty would be nice.

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Edina do you really think the police did a proper job on Jameis' case?
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Originally Posted by diadem View Post

I think what most people were looking for was for this report to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.  This report comes nowhere close to doing that.  I'm fully aware that this is not a criminal investigation and that reasonable doubt only applies to criminal investigations, but some certainty would be nice.

Agreed. Right now we know that nothing resembling proof of wrongdoing was found and that in the opinion of the investigators, there is a 51% or higher chance that Tom Brady was generally aware of alleged misconduct (if it in fact occurred) that had at least a 51% chance of being true.
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Edina do you really think the police did a proper job on Jameis' case?

Maybe not* but of the evidence that we do have, none of it comports with her story (hell, not even her friends could help corroborate her series of events) and as I said, in a court that is overwhelmingly against the defense, where no evidence is needed to convict someone and there are no rights available to the accused to not self-incriminate or anything else, Jameis' accuser couldn't prove her story there. She couldn't prove it to a former Florida state judge. The PIs hired by the Bucs couldn't prove her story. She couldn't prove it in a civil trial.

So either everyone (again, including the accuser's friends) are out to cover up for Jameis or... the events didn't happen.

*And this is mainly due to TPD's ineptitude. They had a CI get killed while collecting intel. They're not smart enough to protect anyone.
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"we have concluded that, in connection with the AFC Championship Game, it is more probable than not that New England Patriots personnel participated in violations of the Playing Rules and were involved in a deliberate effort to circumvent the rules,"






"I'm so compuzed!"
post #3057 of 4994
is Manny wearing Kobe X's? doesn't he have his own shoe from Nike??
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Edina do you really think the police did a proper job on Jameis' case?

Maybe not* but of the evidence that we do have, none of it comports with her story (hell, not even her friends could help corroborate her series of events) and as I said, in a court that is overwhelmingly against the defense, where no evidence is needed to convict someone and there are no rights available to the accused to not self-incriminate or anything else, Jameis' accuser couldn't prove her story there. She couldn't prove it to a former Florida state judge. The PIs hired by the Bucs couldn't prove her story. She couldn't prove it in a civil trial.

So either everyone (again, including the accuser's friends) are out to cover up for Jameis or... the events didn't happen.

*And this is mainly due to TPD's ineptitude. They had a CI get killed while collecting intel. They're not smart enough to protect anyone.

Buccaneers In-House Counsel Already Has 26 Missed Calls From Jameis Winston
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Originally Posted by diadem View Post

I think what most people were looking for was for this report to prove beyond a reasonable doubt…. some certainty would be nice.

Not just directed at you… but generally speaking, I don't know why anyone would expect that. Of course Tom knows. Of course Bill knows. There is no conclusive proof as any smart/crafty person seeking an unfair advantage would do so in such a way as to maintain plausible deniability. Bill has proven himself smart/crafty… Tom is a moron. The whole discussion is fucking amateur hour.
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post

Wells Report is a joke. 4 months of investigation to get phrases like "more probable than not" and "generally aware." Roughly translated, I read that to mean "we wasted a lot of money and have no actual proof of wrongdoing."
Eh, it really means, "what's done is done and they won the fucking Super Bowl, so let's try for some sort of soft landing we can walk away from without further muss."

Also, absent a confession or secret video, what did people expect the report to say? It's a report by a law firm of their investigation of a sensitive (in a big fish small pond sort of way) controversy for a big client where there is no compelling direct evidence and some people are probably lying. Absent clear evidence making one conclusion or another indisputable, would you really expect their to-become-public report to speak in any terms other than what's more likely than not? Would people expect a precise figure like "87% likely"?
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