or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Culture › Entertainment and Culture › National Hockey League 2013-2014
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

National Hockey League 2013-2014 - Page 42

post #616 of 660
Look, the Alaskans have never taken on a team of this size and skill before, okay?  And don't kid yourself.  The New York Rangers are taking this game personal.  All right?
It isn't exactly rocket surgery.Now send the kids out of the room. I don't care how fast a skater you are, if you don't play this game...with a big heart and a big bag of knuckles...in front of the net,  you don't got dinky-do.
  This one's over folks

 

Just kidding, but Hank has his work cut out for him.

post #617 of 660
I agree with lord barrington, every time Pierre speaks I want to put a puck through his teeth
post #618 of 660
This series has been a nightmare for New York. They haven't been outplayed, aside from period 3 of game 1, and still find themselves down 3-0. If I was a Rangers fan, I would be cursing my team's luck at the moment,

But since I don't have a dog in this fight, I feel that I have an easier time breaking down this series and what has gone wrong for the NYR. Overall I think they have played well but the one thing they really lack is finish. They have generated opportunities in all three games but they never seem to be able to bury their chances. The missed chances in the OTs of game 1 and 2 were really striking, and they had a tough time burying their chances in game 3 as well.

The Rangers have some great team speed, but I think they lack a couple guys who can really pick corners or score in dirty areas. Kreider, Zuccarello, Hagelin... they all have wheels but none of those guys are more than 20 goal scorers in this league. And it has shown in these playoffs. Kreider alone has missed more golden opportunities than I can count.

This is why I always cringe when a team trades away, or even considers trading away, a 30 goal scorer. There are plenty of fast guys in the league, plenty of big bodies or guys who can hustle or handle the puck well. But there are usually only 10-15 30 goal scorers. Those types of guys really make a difference at this time of the year, and I think the Ranger's lack of a real finisher has been evident.
post #619 of 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post

This series has been a nightmare for New York. They haven't been outplayed, aside from period 3 of game 1, and still find themselves down 3-0. If I was a Rangers fan, I would be cursing my team's luck at the moment,
I am a Rangers fan, but i'm not cursing our luck. There's been some bad luck, yes (especially in game 2), but in game 3, Quick was outstanding, not lucky. I'm cursing our inability to hold on to 2-goal leads, and then our inability to finish. We showed in the previous series that we can finish against some strong opposition, but Quick has been solid and the Kings are so well positioned that it makes the chances marginal and disappear quickly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post

The Rangers have some great team speed, but I think they lack a couple guys who can really pick corners or score in dirty areas. Kreider, Zuccarello, Hagelin... they all have wheels but none of those guys are more than 20 goal scorers in this league. And it has shown in these playoffs. Kreider alone has missed more golden opportunities than I can count.
I'll disagree with you slightly here. Hagelin will get to the corners before anybody, but isn't much of a grinder, he's all speed on the wing and has some key goals in the series. Kreider is still technically a rookie and IMO finding his game a bit. Zuchs is where I mostly disagree here - he was all over last game, nearly had a goal (Quick's save was insane) and his willingness to go into those corners to grind away or plop himself in front of the net and work is what generated (I believe) 3 NYR power plays. He may have been the NYR leading scorer this regular season, i forget exactly. If not leading, then top 3. Zuchs made a mil this year but brought a ton more to the team.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-Barrington View Post

I think the Ranger's lack of a real finisher has been evident.
a lot of the heat will go to Nash, Richards, MStL.
post #620 of 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

I am a Rangers fan, but i'm not cursing our luck. There's been some bad luck, yes (especially in game 2), but in game 3, Quick was outstanding, not lucky. I'm cursing our inability to hold on to 2-goal leads, and then our inability to finish. We showed in the previous series that we can finish against some strong opposition, but Quick has been solid and the Kings are so well positioned that it makes the chances marginal and disappear quickly.
I'll disagree with you slightly here. Hagelin will get to the corners before anybody, but isn't much of a grinder, he's all speed on the wing and has some key goals in the series. Kreider is still technically a rookie and IMO finding his game a bit. Zuchs is where I mostly disagree here - he was all over last game, nearly had a goal (Quick's save was insane) and his willingness to go into those corners to grind away or plop himself in front of the net and work is what generated (I believe) 3 NYR power plays. He may have been the NYR leading scorer this regular season, i forget exactly. If not leading, then top 3. Zuchs made a mil this year but brought a ton more to the team.
a lot of the heat will go to Nash, Richards, MStL.

Don't get me wrong, I think Zucc amd Hagelin have been outstanding this series, especially Zucc. Kreider has had his ups and downs but he has been dangerous. The problem I was trying to highlight is that these guys have all showed up and really hurt LA with their speed, but none of them are top-class finishers. So they have been generating opportunities, but they have had issues burying them.

Guys like Zucc and Hagelin and Kreider are valuable to a team due to their speed. But you need to compliment these guys, as much as possible, with someone that can finish consistently. I think this is especially true in the playoffs where space gets tighter, players have less time to shoot, and the PP becomes so important.

The bummer for the Rangers is that on paper they should have the scoring depth necessary to hang with the Kings; Tons of 18-20 goal guys (Pouliot, Kreider, Hagelin, Stepan, etc) and a couple guys who should be in the 30s on the regular (Nash, MSL). The problem is that the supposed "finishers" haven't showed up, as you rightly pointed out...
post #621 of 660
fair point, and I agree. I think I remember Kreider also mentioning something about him not scoring on his grade-A opportunities, but I think that will come with more experience.

I think Richards is going to be bought out, and I think it's this series that is doing him in. $6.6/yr, that's a lot of space to clear.


so, L-B, what do you think the Rangers should do in the off season?

Rangers RFA's after this year: Brassard, Kreider, Zucc, Falk, Jon Moore.
Rangers UFA's after this year: Boyle, Pouliot, Dom Moore, Carcillo, Stralman, Diaz

I'd imagine they'd want to sign Brassard and Zucc (prob Zucc over Brass), and probably a bridge contract for Kreider. I can see interest in keeping the young J. Moore too.

I'm not sure about Boyle. He's critical on the PK and faceoffs, but not as strong on the boards as you'd expect from a guy of his size. Puliot and D. Moore were signed on the cheap for 1-year deals, i think about $1M per, and both have had excellent seasons and brought forth a great 3rd4th line that helped carry the Rangers to the finals. I'd imagine it would be a no brainer if they can be had for a bit of a raise, maybe 1.5-1.8 each. I'm guessing Carcillo will be out, not sure about Diaz, and i imagine Stralman will bolt for a big raise.


i had to check cap geek to verify these, and it's so satisfying to see McDonagh signed unti 2019 at $4.7 per.
post #622 of 660
Quick playing like a beast last night.
post #623 of 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

fair point, and I agree. I think I remember Kreider also mentioning something about him not scoring on his grade-A opportunities, but I think that will come with more experience.

I think Richards is going to be bought out, and I think it's this series that is doing him in. $6.6/yr, that's a lot of space to clear.


so, L-B, what do you think the Rangers should do in the off season?

Rangers RFA's after this year: Brassard, Kreider, Zucc, Falk, Jon Moore.
Rangers UFA's after this year: Boyle, Pouliot, Dom Moore, Carcillo, Stralman, Diaz

I'd imagine they'd want to sign Brassard and Zucc (prob Zucc over Brass), and probably a bridge contract for Kreider. I can see interest in keeping the young J. Moore too.

I'm not sure about Boyle. He's critical on the PK and faceoffs, but not as strong on the boards as you'd expect from a guy of his size. Puliot and D. Moore were signed on the cheap for 1-year deals, i think about $1M per, and both have had excellent seasons and brought forth a great 3rd4th line that helped carry the Rangers to the finals. I'd imagine it would be a no brainer if they can be had for a bit of a raise, maybe 1.5-1.8 each. I'm guessing Carcillo will be out, not sure about Diaz, and i imagine Stralman will bolt for a big raise.


i had to check cap geek to verify these, and it's so satisfying to see McDonagh signed unti 2019 at $4.7 per.

Richards will most likely get bought out. He has a little bit left in the tank but no one will want him at his current price. If a player on a big contract can't be moved, you have no choice. Sucks for Brad though -- he's had some good years.

I think they definitely resign Brass, Zucc, Moore, and give Kreider a 2.5MM bridge deal for a few seasons. That's the name of the game for young, promising RFAs.
I also thing they bring back Pouliot for 1 year, probably resign Boyle as well if nothing else than for his size/ability to take faceoffs. I don't think he has been that bad in this series. Moore I think walks, mostly because he always asks for more than what teams are willing to give him, and I thinK Carcillo might get the boot as well. Diaz might stay on as a 7th D-man.

It don't think the Rangers (or other contending teams in the East, mind you) would be too smart to be very active on the UFA circuit this offseason. The pickings are slim and the prices will be high. They are still missing a first line center but they won't find a UFA at a decent price to plug that hole.

It sucks to stand pat when you feel like you can contend, but if there is one thing that does not work in today's NHL it's trying to build a winner through free agency...

Everytime I see McDonagh play, I die a little inside knowing that we traded him away for Scott freakin' Gomez. Then I see his bargain basement contact and I die a little more. What a disaster that was for the Habs, but our loss is definitely New York's gain. He's going to be a stud on the Ranger's blueline for years.

*cry*
post #624 of 660
cool, always good to hear a level-headed assessment from a fan of another team. Agreed on most everything, and especially agree about building a winner with free agency. This rangers team has been assembled mostly by drafting/prospect trades (McD, Girardi, Stepan, Hagelin, Kreider) or trades for other assets (the Gaborik trade, MdZ), I think Richie is the only free agent splash.

Richie could still bring a lot to another team, a team that needs some struckture and leadership (Sabres?). Rangers are already pretty well set in that department with Girardi, McD, StL, Stepan, and Nash.



for some reason, i can see a team throwing a bunch at Boyle. "Depth forward who can grind down low, big size, block shots, kill penalties, win faceoffs ... he's a player we need to go deep into the playoffs and so he has earned this $3.8/per".
post #625 of 660
Dat feel when UPS shows my new goalie gear is out for delivery. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifsatisfied.gif
post #626 of 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by gort View Post

Dat feel when UPS shows my new goalie gear is out for delivery. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifsatisfied.gif

Enjoy it!
post #627 of 660
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gort View Post

Dat feel when UPS shows my new goalie gear is out for delivery. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifsatisfied.gif

Pics please nod[1].gif
post #628 of 660
finally, Rangers got a few bounces. And a few, uh, snow piles on the goal line.
post #629 of 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

finally, Rangers got a few bounces. And a few, uh, snow piles on the goal line.

Those snow piles were the second most effective goaltending weapon I have seen used ina SCF, right behind JS Giguère`s comically oversized pads!

Speaking of which, Gort does need to post some pics of his new gear. Don`t tease us!
post #630 of 660
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
14215094208_35cceeb328_h.jpg

Feeling like a little kid all excited I got a full setup matching my beer league team, rofl. My wife doesn't get it. At least I slightly bend the truth when she asks how much it all costs.shog[1].gif

My man cave consists of goalie gear, video games, and guitars. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Entertainment and Culture
Styleforum › Forums › Culture › Entertainment and Culture › National Hockey League 2013-2014