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post #46 of 58
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Originally Posted by K to Wall St View Post

I'm a Wall Street stock analyst, so that's a pretty fair description of who I am and how I'd like to be perceived in business settings. smile.gif

Yeah, but you're never going to talk about how you optimized your shoe purchases. You have to wear and enjoy wearing the shoes so that you can focus on more important business at hand. Nothing wrong with taking advantage of the weak British Pound to buy things in the UK or finding cheaper ways to get the same thing, but I'd rather own things I like, especially shoes which can last for many years with proper care.
post #47 of 58
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Originally Posted by K to Wall St View Post

So if my math is right, I can get 2 pairs of CJ for 325 euro each, less VAT, plus 35 euro shipping, at 1.32 dollar/euro works out to $380 per pair. Plus I can try them on next time I'm in NYC before I buy.

Or I can spend $350 per pair for Meermin LMs when you include duties, and not get to try on in advance.

Or pay $344 per pair (with the 6% tax) for loake from CT.

Two conclusions:
1 - CJ starting to look like a no brainer
2 - I got ripped off paying $609 (including tax) for my Westbournes

 

I don't think you got ripped off on your C&Js. I assume you bought these from the store in NYC? What you got was the ability to walk into a store, try on shoes, and get a pair that fits. Sure, you could have ordered direct from C&J, but then you may have ended up with the wrong size, had to exchange them, and deal with the associated headaches. You also bought the knowledge of your proper size on the 348 last, so now you should be able to order anything on the same last from C&J directly.
post #48 of 58
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Originally Posted by K to Wall St View Post

So if my math is right, I can get 2 pairs of CJ for 325 euro each, less VAT, plus 35 euro shipping, at 1.32 dollar/euro works out to $380 per pair. Plus I can try them on next time I'm in NYC before I buy.

Or I can spend $350 per pair for Meermin LMs when you include duties, and not get to try on in advance.

Or pay $344 per pair (with the 6% tax) for loake from CT.

Two conclusions:
1 - CJ starting to look like a no brainer
2 - I got ripped off paying $609 (including tax) for my Westbournes

I think C&J are 325 GBP. You should re-calculate.
post #49 of 58
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

I don't think you got ripped off on your C&Js. I assume you bought these from the store in NYC? What you got was the ability to walk into a store, try on shoes, and get a pair that fits. Sure, you could have ordered direct from C&J, but then you may have ended up with the wrong size, had to exchange them, and deal with the associated headaches. You also bought the knowledge of your proper size on the 348 last, so now you should be able to order anything on the same last from C&J directly.

+1.
post #50 of 58
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Originally Posted by DpprDr View Post

I think C&J are 325 GBP. You should re-calculate.

I was gonna say, 325 eu would be very cheap for C&Js.
post #51 of 58
Thread Starter 
Store experience definitely has value, its tempting to be a show-roomer but I always feel bad using the store then buying online.

I'm a junior analyst so no EGs for me. One of my managers makes probably 15-20x what I do and refuses to spend more than $200 on shoes. That's not really relevant but I always found it interesting.

Good call on GBP, makes them about $445 per pair.
post #52 of 58
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Originally Posted by K to Wall St View Post

So if my math is right, I can get 2 pairs of CJ for 325 euro each, less VAT, plus 35 euro shipping, at 1.32 dollar/euro works out to $380 per pair. Plus I can try them on next time I'm in NYC before I buy.

Or I can spend $350 per pair for Meermin LMs when you include duties, and not get to try on in advance.

Or pay $344 per pair (with the 6% tax) for loake from CT.

Two conclusions:
1 - CJ starting to look like a no brainer
2 - I got ripped off paying $609 (including tax) for my Westbournes

 

 

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Originally Posted by wurger View Post


VAT is 20%

I believe the prices in the brochure were set prior to VAT increase. The price was increased from these to accommodate for the increase in VAT. I may be wrong, though. 

post #53 of 58
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post


Yeah, but you're never going to talk about how you optimized your shoe purchases. You have to wear and enjoy wearing the shoes so that you can focus on more important business at hand. Nothing wrong with taking advantage of the weak British Pound to buy things in the UK or finding cheaper ways to get the same thing, but I'd rather own things I like, especially shoes which can last for many years with proper care.

Liking them is a given, but everyone has limited resources and tries to allocate them as best they can. If you like pair A by just $10 more than pair B, but they cost $200 more, you're probably better off taking your girl out to a nice dinner with the difference.

I'm happy driving my VW, would a BMW make me happier? Yes, but then I'd have less cash to spend on clothes and other discretionary things I buy. We're all constantly trying to optimizing our purchases, whether you think about it that way or not.

But I do agree with you - I need to just decide or shut up
post #54 of 58
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post

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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

Keep in mind the CT are only Loake Shoemaker Line quality, not the 1880 Line quality.

not accurate. CT sells lower end lines that are made in india and while still GY welted, the quality of the materials and construction is lower.

The luxury line are made in england loake 1880 level.

http://www.ctshirts.com/men%27s-shoes/Cedar-luxury-calf-semi--brogue-shoes?q=usgob||MC023BRN|||||||||||||

I stand corrected, thank you for pointing that out, a good way to pick out Loake 1880s is by the patterns on the sole.
post #55 of 58
Thread Starter 

CT doing a $50-discount coupon from Living Social that looks like it will work on their Loake 1880s level shoes.  There's a Loake store nearby where I can try things on...  anyone have any idea what last these two pairs are at Loake?

 

Brown Luxury Calf Brogue (looks like a Loake Hilton?):

http://www.ctshirts.com/men's-shoes/men's-business-shoes/Brown-luxury-calf-brogue-shoes?q=usddefault||MC089DBN|||300 to 399.99|8,|||||||||

 

Black Luxury Calf Leather Oxford (looks like a Loake Rothschild?)

http://www.ctshirts.com/men's-shoes/men's-business-shoes/Black-luxury-calf-leather-Oxford-shoes?q=usddefault||MC003BLK|||300 to 399.99|8,|||||||||

post #56 of 58
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Originally Posted by K to Wall St View Post

CT doing a $50-discount coupon from Living Social that looks like it will work on their Loake 1880s level shoes.  There's a Loake store nearby where I can try things on...  anyone have any idea what last these two pairs are at Loake?

Brown Luxury Calf Brogue (looks like a Loake Hilton?):
http://www.ctshirts.com/men's-shoes/men's-business-shoes/Brown-luxury-calf-brogue-shoes?q=usddefault||MC089DBN|||300 to 399.99|8,|||||||||

Black Luxury Calf Leather Oxford (looks like a Loake Rothschild?)
http://www.ctshirts.com/men's-shoes/men's-business-shoes/Black-luxury-calf-leather-Oxford-shoes?q=usddefault||MC003BLK|||300 to 399.99|8,|||||||||

I don't know if that's a good deal to be honest. Wouldn't it still be cheaper to order from the UK?
post #57 of 58
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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post


I don't know if that's a good deal to be honest. Wouldn't it still be cheaper to order from the UK?

 

CT UK does not offer VAT deductions.  See this thread: http://www.styleforum.net/t/239469/charles-tyrwhitt-policy-change-no-value-added-tax-refunds

post #58 of 58
Edwardsof Manchester is having their annual sale! 20% off most models, including Loake. OP, jump on this now; you won't find a better deal.

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