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Shame on these judgment shamers
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

The reason for dress codes is that schools shouldn't be a sexually charged environment, even if everything else in our culture is. The stuff about kids not being able to focus is just an answer to the simplistic questions based on shallow harm-based morality: i.e. "who is being hurt?".

So institute a school uniform. Banning leggings is just one small step down the slippery slope that ends in prairie dresses and head scarves.
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Can somebody tell me if this guy is for real or not?

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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

So institute a school uniform. Banning leggings is just one small step down the slippery slope that ends in prairie dresses and head scarves.

Schools have always had dress codes. Somehow we've avoided the burka thus far.
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Can somebody tell me if this guy is for real or not?
You need more advanced analytics to answer that question.

Anyway I'm half serious. Societies often use terms like "modesty" and "temptation" to justify treating women like rancid bags of shit e.g. Saudi Arabia, Fundamentalist Christian compounds. Obviously a legging ban is a long way from that, but, as a American who loves my country, I loath shit like this. Just make both genders wear a fucking school uniform and call it a day.
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You need more advanced analytics to answer that question.

Anyway I'm half serious. Societies often use terms like "modesty" and "temptation" to justify treating women like rancid bags of shit e.g. Saudi Arabia, Fundamentalist Christian compounds. Obviously a legging ban is a long way from that, but, as a American who loves my country, I loath shit like this. Just make both genders wear a fucking school uniform and call it a day.

 

I don't see how this is relevant or what it even means but okay. 

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I don't see how this is relevant or what it even means but okay. 
Because Freedom, Bitch! Because in America we can all rock out with our cock out! Because fuck you and all the rest of you conservative misogynistic drips!
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We must break their will down. School is a freedom free zone. It's no place for self-expression or thought. The children need to be told what to do.
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When I see a girl wearing leggings I always think that she must be a highly intelligent creative type to be able to express herself like that. Next level stuff.

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We must break their will down. School is a freedom free zone. It's no place for self-expression or thought. The children need to be told what to do.

 

Followed by obligatory military service for all, like in Israel. In case school fails to teach them to be obedient. Deserters will be shot. 

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You need more advanced analytics to answer that question.

Anyway I'm half serious. Societies often use terms like "modesty" and "temptation" to justify treating women like rancid bags of shit e.g. Saudi Arabia, Fundamentalist Christian compounds. Obviously a legging ban is a long way from that, but, as a American who loves my country, I loath shit like this. Just make both genders wear a fucking school uniform and call it a day.
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We must break their will down. School is a freedom free zone. It's no place for self-expression or thought. The children need to be told what to do.

Not quite that extreme, but part of the point of schooling is teaching kids how to function within "the system." These girls want to express their sexuality or individuality or whatever, but they need to start understanding that you can't do that shit wherever and whenever you want. Establishing a school culture completely free of restrictions and judgement is going to lead to the type of kids who are SHOCKED to find out that wearing Uggs and tights to an interview will result in not getting the job. Making them wear uniforms removes their agency entirely. Provide a set of reasonable restrictions based on social standards (god knows what that is anymore) and let 'em figure out how to function within those constraints.

Personally, I don't think school is a place where kids ought to be given the freedom to express their sexuality, and not because it "distracts the boys" or whatever the hell. It shouldn't be a sexualized environment. You're there to learn, not find ass.
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I think kids should wear their regular clothes in school no dress code. In case when a teacher thinks his student dresses inappropriately or what's worse smells, he should contact the parents. Trying to make a dress code will often result in silliness like banning leggins.

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post


Not quite that extreme, but part of the point of schooling is teaching kids how to function within "the system." These girls want to express their sexuality or individuality or whatever, but they need to start understanding that you can't do that shit wherever and whenever you want. Establishing a school culture completely free of restrictions and judgement is going to lead to the type of kids who are SHOCKED to find out that wearing Uggs and tights to an interview will result in not getting the job. Making them wear uniforms removes their agency entirely. Provide a set of reasonable restrictions based on social standards (god knows what that is anymore) and let 'em figure out how to function within those constraints.

Personally, I don't think school is a place where kids ought to be given the freedom to express their sexuality, and not because it "distracts the boys" or whatever the hell. It shouldn't be a sexualized environment. You're there to learn, not find ass.

Absolutely. They are not people, they are children after all.
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

So institute a school uniform. Banning leggings is just one small step down the slippery slope that ends in prairie dresses and head scarves.

It works in both directions, too. When I started (public) middle school in the early 90s, we weren't permitted to wear shorts. It was long pants for boys at all times and girls had to wear either pants or modest skirts/dresses (IIRC skorts were also okay). Keep in mind that this was Central Florida, where summer starts in March and ends in October.

At some point during my sixth grade year, the rule was changed and shorts were allowed. By the time I started seventh grade, some girls were already eschewing shirts for bikini tops. I'm no longer in the area, but I've heard from friends who still are that the '14-15 school year will be the first one where clothing is completely forbidden, though the orgies remain optional (for now).
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

I think kids should wear their regular clothes in school no dress code. In case when a teacher thinks his student dresses inappropriately or what's worse smells, he should contact the parents. Trying to make a dress code will often result in silliness like banning leggins.

Schools tend to go for arbitrary guidelines for a reason, it's a lot easier to enforce. Leaving it up to teachers working things out with the parents opens up all cans of worms. The parents can just ignore it, it puts a bigger burden on teachers, it allows teachers to take out biases against students, sets of issues where different teachers have different standards, etc. Having some arbitrary may result in some silliness (why a skirt needs to be exactly X inches is never clear), but it's at least enforceable.

I don't think banning leggings is silly in any case.
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