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When he's on his deathbed lying on his own shit, he will finally regret investing the little time he had with things like that.
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When he's on his deathbed lying on his own shit, he will finally regret investing the little time he had with things like that.

Thank Zombie Baby Jesus that will never happen to any of us!
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I'm so glad I'm male because:

 

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 110. Common vocabulary favors your gender as the default, with language like “mankind” and “foreman,” and dictionary definitions of words created by men.
 
118. You can buy clothes designed for your gender that have pockets you can actually use – clothes meant for women are often focused on being “slimming,” so purely decorative pockets are common.
 
11. Clothing made for you doesn’t reinforce stereotypes of your gender as “too pretty” to be smart.
 
55. You’re not expected to put in unpaid emotional labor, like maintaining office harmony, in addition to your work duties. People don’t believe that your gender is just more suited to this often unrecognized and uncompensated work.

 

http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/160-examples-of-male-privilege/?utm_content=bufferfc0a6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

post #4504 of 5610
it's always entertaining to see new terms like "unpaid emotional labor" defined and so earnestly discussed.

With that said, how far up your ass does your head have to be to make the statement that men don't need to engage in "emotional labor"? Men don't need to 'maintain office harmony' or listen and pretend to be supportive of other people's bitching? That shit was 90% of my work week this week
post #4505 of 5610
The clothing stuff is irritating because it implies some kind of conspiracy. Clothing executives are not sitting around a table smoking cigars and cackling about how the pockets on the clothing they sells keeps women in line. They're selling clothes that people buy. I'd imagine women make up a good fraction of the trend setting and they're certainly making the final buying decisions. If there was really money in pants with functional pockets, someone would buy it.

I guess you could make some larger argument about women being trained from youth to value appearance more than function etc etc, but that wouldn't provide an easy bad guy.

Also, I'm going to bet that 99.99% of little girl's clothes are bought by their mothers.
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it's always entertaining to see new terms like "unpaid emotional labor" defined and so earnestly discussed.

With that said, how far up your ass does your head have to be to make the statement that men don't need to engage in "emotional labor"? Men don't need to 'maintain office harmony' or listen and pretend to be supportive of other people's bitching? That shit was 90% of my work week this week

 

I don't provide any emotional support to my coworkers and refuse to enable office harmony to prove that I'm the alpha male in the office.

post #4507 of 5610
It's still emotional labor. You're just working on a completely different emotion
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It's still emotional labor. You're just working on a completely different emotion

Any time you're putting in so much effort that your eyes begin to water, that's emotional labor.
post #4509 of 5610
Fuck, easily 80% of being a boss is "emotional labour." I had to figure out years ago that everyone wants something from me, everyone approaches me seeing only their little slice of the world, and I have to deal with everyone from that perspective. She should try "emotional labour" when all that shit basically funnels up to you and you don't get to have a bad day.
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Fuck, easily 80% of being a boss is "emotional labour." I had to figure out years ago that everyone wants something from me, everyone approaches me seeing only their little slice of the world, and I have to deal with everyone from that perspective. She should try "emotional labour" when all that shit basically funnels up to you and you don't get to have a bad day.

That's actually your job though. It's the "unpaid" part that they're whining about.

From what I've seen, a lot of it is completely unnecessary stuff that only the women care about anyway. Arranging birthday parties, bringing in food, all that stuff. The men in the office simply wouldn't bother and wouldn't really care, but it's this big thing for the women and they get all stressed about it. Apparently "not doing it" isn't an option though.
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That's actually your job though. It's the "unpaid" part that they're whining about.

From what I've seen, a lot of it is completely unnecessary stuff that only the women care about anyway. Arranging birthday parties, bringing in food, all that stuff. The men in the office simply wouldn't bother and wouldn't really care, but it's this big thing for the women and they get all stressed about it. Apparently "not doing it" isn't an option though.

There's not a single job description that will include what I talked about. If one wants to argue it's not in the job description I'm not being paid for that.

Gib, no offense here, but I've noticed in the private sector the bolded shit happens way less; it's government jobs that tend to be full of this. When my wife went to work for local government last year I jokingly told her to mention in her interview she excels at "pot luck lunches." Know what they did to welcome her aboard? Yup, pot luck lunch.
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That's actually your job though. It's the "unpaid" part that they're whining about.

From what I've seen, a lot of it is completely unnecessary stuff that only the women care about anyway. Arranging birthday parties, bringing in food, all that stuff. The men in the office simply wouldn't bother and wouldn't really care, but it's this big thing for the women and they get all stressed about it. Apparently "not doing it" isn't an option though.

Women are fucking weird in general. When I worked construction, and in kitchens with mostly men we never even thought of those things. For the most part we were there to work, and get paid shit. We just accepted, and once in a while make jokes to make the day go faster. We just wanted to get the fuck out of there, and not make it more comfortable like women like to do with places.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

That's actually your job though. It's the "unpaid" part that they're whining about.

From what I've seen, a lot of it is completely unnecessary stuff that only the women care about anyway. Arranging birthday parties, bringing in food, all that stuff. The men in the office simply wouldn't bother and wouldn't really care, but it's this big thing for the women and they get all stressed about it. Apparently "not doing it" isn't an option though.

Here, the head of the department's executive assistance coordinates birthday celebrations, Friday morning bagels/donuts, etc. People pitch in on an optional/rotating basis, but it's the assistant who organizes it and keeps track of it. And I'm pretty sure her boss tells her to do it, in the interest of collegiality, team spirit, etc.

That stuff really isn't "unpaid", in any event, unless you take the position that anything that's not explicitly in your job description ("it doesn't say I have to hold the elevator when I see the boss coming or speak civilly to my colleagues!") is somehow unpaid labor. And of course, you're still getting paid for all the does-appear-in-your-job-description work you're not doing while you're putting candles on cupcakes or whatever.

Anecdotally, in the places I've worked a pretty good number of men (and straight men at that) care about that kind of crap, too.
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Anecdotally, in the places I've worked a pretty good number of men (and straight men at that) care about that kind of crap, too.

You're in La La Land though. Men there eat too much soy.
post #4515 of 5610
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

There's not a single job description that will include what I talked about. If one wants to argue it's not in the job description I'm not being paid for that.

Gib, no offense here, but I've noticed in the private sector the bolded shit happens way less; it's government jobs that tend to be full of this. When my wife went to work for local government last year I jokingly told her to mention in her interview she excels at "pot luck lunches." Know what they did to welcome her aboard? Yup, pot luck lunch.

In my personal experience this is partially true, although I now work for a big public company and there's a lot of that stuff in my particular department. Some of it is judge institutional culture or management style.

The pot luck lunch is definitely a government thing, but there are particular reasons for it. At least in the agency I worked for, there was no budget for entertainment or morale lunches or whatever. Way more time than was really necessary was always devoted to whether, say, the holiday party should be at a restaurant or be a pot luck in the office conference room. The issue being that if it was held at a restaurant everyone was going to pay for their own meal, and then there are concerns that if you go to a nicer place you might start pricing out the low-paid admin staff, blah blah ...)
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