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Originally Posted by noob in 89 View Post

Ugh. Here's a serious reason why we still need feminism:

http://gawker.com/texas-one-of-nations-worst-states-for-gender-equality-1737463926

http://gawker.com/texas-authorities-raid-multiple-planned-parenthood-loca-1738301753

This will have a lasting, devastating effect upon my state. So terrible that more and more people -- especially the young -- are beginning to equate feminism either with French theory or the brand of YouTube narcissism practiced by the rich. Meanwhile, this happens...

What does this have to do with feminism? Also, you're telling me the $300k in lost revenue in a state the size of Texas and an organization the size of Planned Parenthood, makes any difference to either side?
post #3902 of 5616
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

What does this have to do with feminism?

I know this the humor thread, so maybe you're joking?

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Also, you're telling me the $300k in lost revenue in a state the size of Texas and an organization the size of Planned Parenthood, makes any difference to either side?

The total is in the millions, and the facilities providing contraception, education, screening, and so forth -- especially important in poorer and rural areas -- are being starved off, shut down. About half the women receiving these services are now cut off. By men who believe a bearded man in the sky is against contraception, education, and so forth.
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Originally Posted by noob in 89 View Post

Ugh. Here's a serious reason why we still need feminism:

http://gawker.com/texas-one-of-nations-worst-states-for-gender-equality-1737463926

http://gawker.com/texas-authorities-raid-multiple-planned-parenthood-loca-1738301753

This will have a lasting, devastating effect upon my state. So terrible that more and more people -- especially the young -- are beginning to equate feminism either with French theory or the brand of YouTube narcissism practiced by the rich. Meanwhile, this happens...

What does this have to do with feminism? Also, you're telling me the $300k in lost revenue in a state the size of Texas and an organization the size of Planned Parenthood, makes any difference to either side?


Planned Parenthood and gender equality ? Them bitches need to learn to let the men take care of the important stuff

post #3904 of 5616
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

What does this have to do with feminism? Also, you're telling me the $300k in lost revenue in a state the size of Texas and an organization the size of Planned Parenthood, makes any difference to either side?

The fact abortion (or not) is ultimately and always a female's decision is incidental.

It's 100% a civil liberties issue and if you think it through it has nothing to do with "gender equality."
post #3905 of 5616
It certainly does, even under more flexible definitions. And if you care to Google around a bit, you can see why, and also how, in Texas, it's all bound up in a giant political clusterfuck. Republican legislators have a longstanding feud with PP, and the methods they use to try and limit, discredit, undermine, and all-out abolish it are some very petty, not to mention evil, shit.
post #3906 of 5616
Im not sure on my position re: publicly funding PP but sounds like a shame it's getting f*cked by the evangelist crowd.

Certainly a few in Austin will remain open??
post #3907 of 5616
Well, IIRC, by law, abortions can't be publicly funded here -- even though that's what they still use to whip up hysteria. This hurts everything, but especially things like contraception and education, which are sought out, and even more necessary when you factor in schools, and how sex education can be limited to things like abstinence only, or...Jesus.

I agree it's a shame, and it would also seem to conflict with other Republican goals: less poor people, less welfare, etc.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

What does this have to do with feminism? Also, you're telling me the $300k in lost revenue in a state the size of Texas and an organization the size of Planned Parenthood, makes any difference to either side?

The fact abortion (or not) is ultimately and always a female's decision is incidental.

It's 100% a civil liberties issue and if you think it through it has nothing to do with "gender equality."


One in three children are raised in a home without a father . One in forty five are raised in homes without a mother

post #3909 of 5616
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Originally Posted by noob in 89 View Post


I know this the humor thread, so maybe you're joking?
The total is in the millions, and the facilities providing contraception, education, screening, and so forth -- especially important in poorer and rural areas -- are being starved off, shut down. About half the women receiving these services are now cut off. By men who believe a bearded man in the sky is against contraception, education, and so forth.

 

From the article you posted: Texas put $310,000 towards Planned Parenthood in 2015.  So, I don't see where the millions is coming from.

 

I'm not joking.  I don't see how the state giving money to any organization is an issue for real feminism.  I don't know about Texas, but I have read articles about other states cutting funding to PP, and they give the funding to other women's health groups.


I don't feel bad for PP because they're a political organization whether you like it or intellectually honest to admit it.  They lobby states and the federal government on all kinds of issues, and they provoke fights with social conservatives and raise money on those fights.

My objection to them has nothing to do with anything you wrote.  My objection is simple: I don't believe my tax dollars should go to fund this shit.  If you don't like that Texas isn't paying for PP, you can move to a state that happily gives them money.  If you don't like that there aren't easy access to abortions where you live, move somewhere else.

 

Also, if PP closes in certain areas, it sounds like an opportunity for another organization to offer services in that area.  Presumably the doctors or staff in that area are capable of starting an independent practice and providing whatever services they want.

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Originally Posted by noob in 89 View Post

Well, IIRC, by law, abortions can't be publicly funded here -- even though that's what they still use to whip up hysteria. This hurts everything, but especially things like contraception and education, which are sought out, and even more necessary when you factor in schools, and how sex education can be limited to things like abstinence only, or...Jesus.

I agree it's a shame, and it would also seem to conflict with other Republican goals: less poor people, less welfare, etc.

 

My objection to what states like Texas do in these areas is simple: Republicans claim to be limited government types, but they prove they're not when they throw more regulations on disfavored industries like these clinics.

post #3910 of 5616
The idea of limited government is that the government is limited to doing certain things, not that it's supposed to nothing about anything. Pretty much everyone agrees that protecting innocent people from being killed for no good reason is one of those things it's okay for the government to do.
post #3911 of 5616
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Originally Posted by noob in 89 View Post

Well, IIRC, by law, abortions can't be publicly funded here -- even though that's what they still use to whip up hysteria. This hurts everything, but especially things like contraception and education, which are sought out, and even more necessary when you factor in schools, and how sex education can be limited to things like abstinence only, or...Jesus.

I agree it's a shame, and it would also seem to conflict with other Republican goals: less poor people, less welfare, etc.

So one of my graduate degrees is a master's in public health, a degree which, you know, sort of qualifies me to speak on these issues. I had a class on behavioral and social aspects of public health issues. When it came to kids drinking and doing drugs the liberal feminist professor took a zero tolerance stance, i.e. abstinence. I told her that was crazy as kids are going to drink and do drugs so harm mitigation was the goal. She freaked out, told the class how this was illegal for minors, etc., harmful, and we can actually change the viewpoint and behavioiurs of populations so we needed to work on kids not drinking or doing drugs.

Then came talk on abortion, birth control, and abstinence.

Bush was governor of Texas at the time and she was bashing him left and right as he believed in abstinence only, and kids were going to have sex so...harm mitigation was the goal. I turned her inside fucking out in front of 25 grad students. "Well, last class you told us we can stop kids from drinking when I said harm mitigation was the goal. You told us we can change behaviours to zero tolerance, blah blah blah blah." Her final answer was a man has no right to talk about abortion. She looked like a complete fucking schmuck and her reviews all mentioned me turning her inside out.

So while I think free abortions and birth control are the single best ROI my tax dollars can be spent on also realize this means you're good with kids drinking and doing drugs.
post #3912 of 5616
So, I'm about as pro-choice as anyone I know, and I likewise favor encouraging the use of contraception. I also agree with Piob in that both offer tremendous ROI. However, what I don't understand is how refusal to use tax dollars to provide elective medical intervention is a women's rights issue.
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post #3914 of 5616
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So, I'm about as pro-choice as anyone I know, and I likewise favor encouraging the use of contraception. I also agree with Piob in that both offer tremendous ROI. However, what I don't understand is how refusal to use tax dollars to provide elective medical intervention is a women's rights issue.

Typical male response. If you had a vag you wouldn't say such a stupid thing!
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