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post #3676 of 5616
No, not one Cosby drink. The encouragment of the imbibing of many drinks, both she and yee. For the weakening of better judgement on her part and spontaneous removal of clothingz off the bodies of both yee and she.
post #3677 of 5616
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

No, not one Cosby drink. The encouragment of the imbibing of many drinks, both she and yee. For the weakening of better judgement on her part and spontaneous removal of clothingz off the bodies of both yee and she.

Sounds like drugging and rape, even entertaining such thoughts is dangerous I would encourage any woman tricked in such manner to report it to the police and woman rights organizations.
post #3678 of 5616
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In most US jurisdictions if she's incapacitated by alcohol and you wedge your filthy cudgel inside her feculent dugout then yes, that is rape.
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lmao
post #3681 of 5616
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In most US jurisdictions if she's incapacitated by alcohol and you wedge your filthy cudgel inside her feculent dugout then yes, that is rape.

The one thing about this equation that I cannot rectify in my head is if an intoxicated woman cannot give consent due to be intoxicated how can an equally intoxicated man be held accountable for his actions? It's asymmetrical in terms of agency.
post #3682 of 5616
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The one thing about this equation that I cannot rectify in my head is if an intoxicated woman cannot give consent due to be intoxicated how can an equally intoxicated man be held accountable for his actions? It's asymmetrical in terms of agency.

Doesn't bother me. To each his own, but I prefer a certain amount of asymmetry between myself and my partner.



Also, you don't have a vagina, so you don't get to have an opinion about anything that touches on vaginas.
post #3683 of 5616
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Doesn't bother me. To each his own, but I prefer a certain amount of asymmetry between myself and my partner.

It's not that I don't agree there comes a point where an intoxicated person can't give consent. However, there is also certainly a grey area where the person still has agency but the booze is just making her horny and lowering inhibitions. Not my fault you're feeling horny and may regret it later. Then there's the pretty bright line area where a person is either unconscious or shit faced. Still, how do we rectify the situation where two equally intoxicated people bump uglies and one is held to a different standard of agency than the other?
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Also, you don't have a vagina, so you don't get to have an opinion about anything that touches on vaginas.

This is one of the great tropes of our times.
post #3684 of 5616
I guess it just boils down to whether you think being drunk should be a defense to crimes or not. "How can you convict me of DUI? I was drunk and therefore not responsible for my actions."

The way I see it, if they're both drunk they're both guilty of rape and since all kinds of rape have exactly the same degree of culpability (I learned this from the President) they should both go away for a long, long time.
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It's not that I don't agree there comes a point where an intoxicated person can't give consent. However, there is also certainly a grey area where the person still has agency but the booze is just making her horny and lowering inhibitions. Not my fault you're feeling horny and may regret it later. Then there's the pretty bright line area where a person is either unconscious or shit faced. Still, how do we rectify the situation where two equally intoxicated people bump uglies and one is held to a different standard of agency than the other?

Totally agree. I was just making a cis-centric joke.
post #3686 of 5616
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I guess it just boils down to whether you think being drunk should be a defense to crimes or not.

I don't disagree on a very general level but (and I suspect you get this and are just trying to respond to the question on a broad policy level than a narrow legal), but there's a fundamental difference between crimes that have a serious mens rea (intent, more or less) requirement and those that don't.

I believe DUI is a strict liability offense in most jurisdictions. That is, it doesn't matter what your intentions were or whether you knew what you were doing. If you were so drunk that you thought you were turning on the television when you were actually starting the car, you're still guilty.

If you're so drunk that you mistakenly think the person in your bed is actually your inflatable sex doll, you're not guilty of rape (although you're probably violating your university's code of conduct).
post #3687 of 5616
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The idea is basically that if you're not so drunk that you're still able to get a hard-on then you're not incapacitated by alcohol.

Seriously, that's the rationale. If you look into the legislative history of most "unable to consent" rape laws you'll see some mid-60s report from some think tank in California that makes that claim.
post #3688 of 5616
I thought the onus was on the more physically dominant of the people involved to ensure consent.

That sex/body type privilege of being able to force someone else into something they do not give their consent to.
post #3689 of 5616
Like a week ago some broad was leaving a club, and she was on something. I know it wasn't alcohol, but the bitch was high on something. She started asking me for directions, and kept getting closer to me, and then started asking me if I wanted to fuck her. I just smiled, and walked away. My dick was rock hard, and was being held down by my hand inside my pocket. Just couldn't do it.

This has happened a bunch of times to me. Never smashed, but I know someone did. Some of these broads put themselves in some really bad situations. I feel bad for them, but they're fucking stupid.
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I thought the onus was on the more physically dominant of the people involved to ensure consent.

That sex/body type privilege of being able to force someone else into something they do not give their consent to.

This thinking is so retrograde. I mean, to start off with, physically dominating will depend on how you define "strength" and we all know that women are actually stronger than men.
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