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POS vs the M9 but neat. OK I should probably see if there's a gun thread on SF b/c I could go for awhile on this stuff..

There is a gun thread.
post #3512 of 5611
tldr; frat hangs banner, gets suspended because it upsets parents/social media

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/us/virginia-old-dominion-university-sigma-nu-offensive-banners/
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This isn't feminism run amok. This is punishing dumbasses for being dumbasses. I fully support it.

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Yes, they are dumbasses and I don't blame anyone who finds it highly offensive....



...but "freshman daughter drop off" made me lol shog[1].gif
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Yes, they are dumbasses and I don't blame anyone who finds it highly offensive....



...but "freshman daughter drop off" made me lol shog[1].gif

Agreed. But I'm not sure brokencycle's characterization that they were punished only for upsetting "parents/ social media" is entirely fair. I briefly skimmed the article, and it sounds like there was an existing student code of conduct that they were violating. Whether that code is sensible or stupid is a separate question, of course. But in terms of basic fairness, I do think it makes a big difference if these dumbasses were suspended for violating clearly rules rather than for doing something stupid but not covered by any existing rules.
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Agreed. But I'm not sure brokencycle's characterization that they were punished only for upsetting "parents/ social media" is entirely fair. I briefly skimmed the article, and it sounds like there was an existing student code of conduct that they were violating. Whether that code is sensible or stupid is a separate question, of course. But in terms of basic fairness, I do think it makes a big difference if these dumbasses were suspended for violating clearly rules rather than for doing something stupid but not covered by any existing rules.

Based on what I read, they haven't found any rules in the code of conduct they violated, but rather they suspended them while they investigate.
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Beacham condemned the content of the banners and temporarily suspended the ODU chapter.

The university president said ODU has a zero-tolerance policy for sexual harassment, and that the school is doing its own investigation.

"While we constantly educate students, faculty and staff about sexual assault and sexual harassment, this incident confirms our collective efforts are still failing to register with some," Broderick said.

While their banners may have been crass or juvenile, is it really sexual harassment?
post #3517 of 5611
I think this is one of those things where it's a little bit of a lot of things.

1) Dumb asses. It was bound to offend and it was bound to be reported to university authorities.
2) It happened on private property. Do/should university rules apply on private property?
3) It was juvenile and stupid but does it warrant national attention? Does it warrant possibly ruining a few lives?
4) Is the response currently and in the future proportional to the "crime?"
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Agreed. But I'm not sure brokencycle's characterization that they were punished only for upsetting "parents/ social media" is entirely fair. I briefly skimmed the article, and it sounds like there was an existing student code of conduct that they were violating. Whether that code is sensible or stupid is a separate question, of course. But in terms of basic fairness, I do think it makes a big difference if these dumbasses were suspended for violating clearly rules rather than for doing something stupid but not covered by any existing rules.

The question you're begging would be, I think, whether there's anything "clear" about the rule or whether a violation occurred (and that's begging the question of whether schools should be regulating conduct like this in the first place).

The signs could be interpreted as mocking both overprotective parents and the stereotypes about fraternities, overly sensitive feminists and political correctness, the lot. If anything it seems to me that the school is rushing to find some pretext to punish the kids because it doesn't like what they had to say.
post #3519 of 5611
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The question you're begging would be, I think, whether there's anything "clear" about the rule or whether a violation occurred (and that's begging the question of whether schools should be regulating conduct like this in the first place).

The signs could be interpreted as mocking both overprotective parents and the stereotypes about fraternities, overly sensitive feminists and political correctness, the lot. If anything it seems to me that the school is rushing to find some pretext to punish the kids because it doesn't like what they had to say.

Totally fair points. The first one I just sort of assumed (and really, even if it's not explicitly clear, if you're too fucking stupid to realize a banner like that may well come back to bite you in the ass you really don't belong in college anyway), and the second one I specifically deferred because I think it's a different discussion.
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Based on what I read, they haven't found any rules in the code of conduct they violated, but rather they suspended them while they investigate.
While their banners may have been crass or juvenile, is it really sexual harassment?
I'm on a construction site . A real looker strolls past . Hey ! Nice! You and me huh ! Will I get fired ? Damn rite I willno question. Even if my boss agrees with me it's down the road mutha fuka
post #3521 of 5611
College students are fucking stupid by definition. The thing that's different is that the threshold at which your stupidity creates permanent consequences for you is much lower today than it's ever been.
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College students are fucking stupid by definition. The thing that's different is that the threshold at which your stupidity creates permanent consequences for you is much lower today than it's ever been.
Our sensibilities and tolerance thresholds have been lowered to levels that are unhealthy . It's like antibiotics .
True story . I often worked for contractors on the Stanford campus it got to the point where we were told not to look at the students , not just avoid eye cont act but to actually avert our eyes when a student came within our view . This was over ten years ago
post #3523 of 5611

Virtual rape, gamers and sexual assault in GTAV:

https://youtu.be/UheC38wpRYg?t=51s

Beware, triggers abound....

edit: Air conditioning is sexist :https://youtu.be/WJ-iNSGrBp0?t=41s


Edited by dragos25 - 8/28/15 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

Our sensibilities and tolerance thresholds have been lowered to levels that are unhealthy . It's like antibiotics .
True story . I often worked for contractors on the Stanford campus it got to the point where we were told not to look at the students , not just avoid eye cont act but to actually avert our eyes when a student came within our view . This was over ten years ago

Not to look at the females?
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Originally Posted by dragos25 View Post

Virtual rape, gamers and sexual assault in GTAV:
https://youtu.be/UheC38wpRYg?t=51s
Beware, triggers abound....
edit: Air conditioning is sexist :https://youtu.be/WJ-iNSGrBp0?t=41s


The air conditioning thing is really funny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27N3TBjBfAE
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