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post #3271 of 5616
I thought it was equal pay for equal work... LPGA is easier than PGA tournaments based on course set up and competition, therefore the work and skill required is not equal. Am I doing it right?
post #3272 of 5616
I actually think this is an interesting topic of discussion. We all know the mechanism why women get paid less, i.e. general society does not desire to see women in pro sports as much as they do men (granted there's a few sports like figure skating where it's the women that are the real stars). Do the Feds force equal corporate sponsorships? If they did that would it raise all sponsorships up or cram them all down? How do you force fans to attend in equal numbers and pay equal ticket prices? How do you equalize endorsements?
post #3273 of 5616
The same way you equalize everything else with the government. You take from the men's sports and give to the women's sports. The advertisers, ticket purchasers, etc., will all pay the same prices they already do, the men will just have to give half of it to the ladies.

According to Chief Justice Roberts this is a tax.
post #3274 of 5616
I'd like to know if the Facebook feminists complaining about this stuff have ever spent a dime on women's sports, or if it's just more slacktivism.
post #3275 of 5616
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I'd like to know if the Facebook feminists complaining about this stuff have ever spent a dime on women's sports, or if it's just more slacktivism.

If they post selfies making duck faces you have your answer.
post #3276 of 5616
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I actually think this is an interesting topic of discussion. We all know the mechanism why women get paid less, i.e. general society does not desire to see women in pro sports as much as they do men (granted there's a few sports like figure skating where it's the women that are the real stars). Do the Feds force equal corporate sponsorships? If they did that would it raise all sponsorships up or cram them all down? How do you force fans to attend in equal numbers and pay equal ticket prices? How do you equalize endorsements?
In Squash, which is the only sport I know much about from the organization side, the drive for women's prize money comes from the "community" and a sense of it is the right, fair thing. Some men (pros) have complained and have been bullied about it but most have not. The prize money parity, where it happens, is additive, so it hasn't come directly at the expense of the men and part of the appeal to the incremental sponsorship was, in fact, for parity. Long-term this may or may not work since tournament organizers have told me that selling tickets to the women's matches is tougher in general and when you have a mixed program (men and women's matches following each other on the same ticket), the lower level of athleticism is very noticeable. On the other hand, the fan base for squash is primarily active or formerly active players, and, in the junior ranks, there are nearly as many girls as boys so getting the parents to buy tickets to the pro matches does as about as well for the pro women as for the men.
Personally, I enjoy watching the pro women, even if the athleticism is less spectacular, because the skill level is high, the competitiveness is equal and several of the players are good looking. But if I were going to bring a non-player to a match, I would only take them to see the men as they are much more obviously impressive.
post #3277 of 5616
I used to love women sports when Anna Kournikova was still playing. I would even record her matches on VHS tapes. Good times.
post #3278 of 5616
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I used to love women sports when Anna Kournikova was still playing. I would even record her matches on VHS tapes. Good Fappy times.

FTFY.
post #3279 of 5616

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post #3280 of 5616
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

On a more serious, but related note: http://squashsite.tumblr.com/post/123358650813/lowertinwomen
This is about making the same adjustment to the women's pro court dimensionsas was made some time ago by lowering the "tin" by two inches. The women currently play on the same sized court as amateurs, while pro men have a lower tin to encourage attacking and because the pros were too fast to be easily scored on with drop shots using the higher tin. Even so, men's matches are much longer, on average, than women's matches. This is likely to increase the disparity though it might make the women's matches more exciting (which is the intention).

Several squash tournaments have also introduced pay parity, though it is typically adjusted for the number of rounds in the draw.

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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

In Squash, which is the only sport I know much about from the organization side, the drive for women's prize money comes from the "community" and a sense of it is the right, fair thing. Some men (pros) have complained and have been bullied about it but most have not. The prize money parity, where it happens, is additive, so it hasn't come directly at the expense of the men and part of the appeal to the incremental sponsorship was, in fact, for parity. Long-term this may or may not work since tournament organizers have told me that selling tickets to the women's matches is tougher in general and when you have a mixed program (men and women's matches following each other on the same ticket), the lower level of athleticism is very noticeable. On the other hand, the fan base for squash is primarily active or formerly active players, and, in the junior ranks, there are nearly as many girls as boys so getting the parents to buy tickets to the pro matches does as about as well for the pro women as for the men.
Personally, I enjoy watching the pro women, even if the athleticism is less spectacular, because the skill level is high, the competitiveness is equal and several of the players are good looking. But if I were going to bring a non-player to a match, I would only take them to see the men as they are much more obviously impressive.

Against all evidence to the contrary, I will assume this topic is of interest to somebody besides me:
http://www.dailysquashreport.com/7_13_15_pan_am2.htm
post #3281 of 5616
That's an interesting observation. I'd be interested in learning the impact on the matches with relation to raising/lowering the tin.
post #3282 of 5616
Thread Starter 
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A U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) study to understand why lesbians are fat has now cost taxpayers over $3.5 million to-date.

The study, “Sexual Orientation and Obesity: A Test of a Gendered Biopsychosocial Model,” seeks to determine why there is a disparity in the obesity rates between straight women and lesbian women and straight men and gay men.

According to the study, “It is now well-established that women of minority sexual orientation are disproportionately affected by the obesity epidemic, with nearly three-quarters of adult lesbians overweight or obese, compared to half of heterosexual women. In stark contrast, among men, heterosexual males have nearly double the risk of obesity compared to gay males.”

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/taxpayers-continue-spend-millions-find-out-why-lesbians-are-fat#.8x6vpn:TL8B
post #3283 of 5616
can they study why a greater amount of queers are into showtunes as well?
post #3284 of 5616
Its because men are shallow. They're finally free of the patriarchy.
post #3285 of 5616
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

That's an interesting observation. I'd be interested in learning the impact on the matches with relation to raising/lowering the tin.
Here's more:
As I Was Saying . . .
by Ted Gross


July 13, 2015

The contrast between Monday night's Pan-American Games men's and women's gold medal matches is another indication that the women's tour needs to make an adjustment, and that lowering the tin is not the answer.

In the men's final between Rodriguez and Elias, the first game lasted 27 minutes.

The four-gamer, won by Colombia's Rodriguez, went a total of 81 minutes.

Game durations were 27 minutes, 8 minutes, 23 minutes and 19 minutes.

By contrast, in the Sobhy-Blatchford women's gold medal final, game durations were 6 minutes, 6 minutes and 4 minutes.

Including rest time (if you can call it that), the women's match survived for 19 minutes.
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