Originally Posted by wojt
did they deserve it?
The father deserved it. His kid picked a fight and lost. The kid was then obviously a whiny little bitch about it at home such that his father felt the need to go to the home of a minor with the intent to rough the minor up some. In a bit of cosmic justice the adult bite off more than he could chew. Don't fuck with Scottish people.
Originally Posted by Ataturk
I am just flabbergasted that you've apparently never seen someone ask you to assume something in order to focus or clarify an argument. Sheesh!
I have not done a 50-state survey, but traditionally you can in fact make a citizen's arrest of someone for committing a misdemeanor, as long as it was committed in your presence and it's a the sort of offense that constitutes a breach of the peace (that's a term of art and fairly broad). And you can use reasonable force to prevent them for escaping.
And, yeah, you are liable civilly and maybe criminally (depending on the intent requirements of the offense, I imagine) if you turn out to be wrong.
Punching and fishing hooking is certainly reasonable force in this case, right? And the kid was not fleeing. He had a shitload of RC equipment, so was going nowhere with that stuff, and she initiated the assault when he moved some of it out of her reach and she didn't like that.