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Only female breasts, huh? That is very sexist. 

post #1112 of 5613
NY makes the distinction as well.
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Wonder what hashtags this is going to generate?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/world/asia/cambodia-sex-slavery-foundation-hero-resign/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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She was the world's crusader against the trafficking of girls for sex in Cambodia, and she told an extraordinary personal tale: she was a village girl sold by a grandfatherly man into sex slavery.

Triumphant as well as beautiful, Somaly Mam won attention from Oprah Winfrey, a New York Times columnist, a PBS documentary, Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People of 2009, and even CNN, which named her a "Hero" in 2007.

The fame -- and her memoir "The Road of Lost Innocence" -- generated millions of dollars for her Somaly Mam Foundation, fighting sex traffickers.

But her personal story wasn't true, according to a Newsweek exposé this month.

Oops.
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#BitchBetterHaveMyMoney!
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Critical Sex Theory. The story doesn't have to be true as long as it serves the larger narrative.
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Or not, turns out different states have different statutes. but don't let facts get in the way of your narrative.

CA more accurately call sexual assault sexual battery, which is a separate cause of action from rape. In CA rape does require penetration.

Sexual Battery:
(a) Any person who touches an intimate part of another
person while that person is unlawfully restrained by the accused or
an accomplice, and if the touching is against the will of the person
touched and is for the purpose of sexual arousal, sexual
gratification, or sexual abuse, is guilty of sexual battery. . .

. . . (2) As used in this subdivision, "touches" means physical contact
with another person, whether accomplished directly, through the
clothing of the person committing the offense, or through the
clothing of the victim.
. . .

(1) "Intimate part" means the sexual organ, anus, groin, or
buttocks of any person, and the breast
of a female.

I'm not sure why you think "sexual battery" is a more accurate term than "sexual assault" but the simple fact is touching a lady's breast is not sexual assault in CA.

Also, NY does not have an offense titled "sexual assault" or "sexual battery".

See, this is the whole problem with SJWs trying to redefine terms to get to their statistics of every woman raped and every man a rapist.
post #1117 of 5613
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

Only female breasts, huh? That is very sexist. 

So potentially grabbing a tranny's breasts would not be sexual battery.

#yesallshemales
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

I'm not sure why you think "sexual battery" is a more accurate term than "sexual assault" but the simple fact is touching a lady's breast is not sexual assault in CA.

Also, NY does not have an offense titled "sexual assault" or "sexual battery".

See, this is the whole problem with SJWs trying to redefine terms to get to their statistics of every woman raped and every man a rapist.

b/c when most people think "assault" they really mean "battery." Its the deference between an attempt or threat and an actual use of force. Grabbing a lady part is not an attempt, it is an actual use of force, thus battery, not assault.

Assault: An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present
ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.

Battery: A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence
upon the person of another.

NY has a variety of statutes, but uses the term "sexual abuse."
The point being that many states have laws which distinguish rape- which is penatrative as you pointed out- from other forms of criminal violence with a sexual component generically called "sexual assault" (http://statelaws.findlaw.com/criminal-laws/sexual-assault.html). Obviously the exact language and ways in which "sexual assault" is parsed will vary between jurisdictions.

And no that is not a way to pad the stats, it makes perfect sense to have laws that distinguish from grabbing a girls tits through her shirt and forcably shoving your cock up her ass.

I'm honestly not sure what your arguing here. If it is a purely semantic point, fine I guess you win. Mount that on your wall.
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Lol, thanks for citing Findlaw.

"And no that is not a way to pad the stats, it makes perfect sense to have laws that distinguish from grabbing a girls tits through her shirt and forcably shoving your cock up her ass."

Of course it makes sense. That's exactly what SJWs don't do. It's exactly what you didn't do when you incorrectly lumped grabbing a girl's breast into the category of sexual assault. These words have specific legal meanings and if you don't understand them you shouldn't be tossing them around as if you do.

Edit - Sexual assault gets you branded a sex offender here in PA. Regular assault (just grabbing the breast) does not. So maybe you can see why it's a really fucking important distinction to make.
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Lol, thanks for citing Findlaw.

"And no that is not a way to pad the stats, it makes perfect sense to have laws that distinguish from grabbing a girls tits through her shirt and forcably shoving your cock up her ass."

Of course it makes sense. That's exactly what SJWs don't do. It's exactly what you didn't do when you incorrectly lumped grabbing a girl's breast into the category of sexual assault. These words have specific legal meanings and if you don't understand them you shouldn't be tossing them around as if you do.

Edit - Sexual assault gets you branded a sex offender here in PA. Regular assault (just grabbing the breast) does not. So maybe you can see why it's a really fucking important distinction to make.

Dude, I understand the specific legal meaning just fine, thanks. You're being intentionally thickheaded to make a rather pedantic point.

The question was what do you call something that is not rape, but is assault and has a sexual component. Some states just consider it assault, but many states have statutory language that carves out an area for this not rape, but not regular old assault either.

This carved out area is generically called sexual assault.

Which you find problematic because in some states, such as PA, the term "sexual assault" has a specific legal meaning and in others, such as CA, a different term is used altogether. Fine, I guess, you win the semantic war. But do you really think people are going to look up the statutory language for the jurisdiction they are in? Or will the generic term live on, it's not that hard to understand. It's a perfectly serviceable term.

Padding rape stats is another related issue, but I'm specifically making a distinction and totally agree that any attempt to pad rape stats to advance an agenda is fucked up.
Edited by NorCal - 5/30/14 at 11:48pm
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For someone who understands them just fine you sure do use them incorrectly.
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

For someone who understands them just fine you sure do use them incorrectly.

No you. Pedantic drunk. Go to bed, its three in the fucking morning.
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Neo, can we operate on this man's medulla oblongata without endangering his gonads? Oh wait, I'm not a doctor I have no idea what that means. Maybe I shouldn't direct medical policy at a hospital.
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Neo, can we operate on this man's medulla oblongata without endangering his gonads? Oh wait, I'm not a doctor I have no idea what that means. Maybe I shouldn't direct medical policy at a hospital.

To be fair neither should Neo.
post #1125 of 5613
CA has weird sex crime laws. They also have "forcible sodomy" as a separate crime, because "rape" specifies a female victim.
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