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Poll Results: Is America's freedom gone?

 
  • 44% (11)
    Yes
  • 56% (14)
    No
25 Total Votes  
post #16 of 105
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

I love living here, having lived in several other countries, I'm thrilled at the way the US is run. the only thing that could make it better would be more police and prisons.

so you are willing to pay more in taxes to pay for those prisons with overpaid guards and overpaid agents with licenses to kill? a judge system would be cheaper, because you only need one massive group instead of of 2 massive groups.
and beside the cost you have more people in jail proportionally than places like china, cuba or any other messed up country and this is not good enough for you?
post #17 of 105
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

I love living here, having lived in several other countries, I'm thrilled at the way the US is run. the only thing that could make it better would be more police and prisons.
Yes, we haven't locked up nearly enough potheads yet.
post #18 of 105
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Originally Posted by hopkins_student View Post

Yes, we haven't locked up nearly enough potheads yet.

well, statistically speaking, if you lock up enough pot heads, you will probably get some criminals off the streets, in the sweep. so I guess it couldn't hurt
post #19 of 105
So, I am dumb enough to open this thread and what I read is...

It's the police state!!!
It's the racists!!!
It's the rich!!!
Throw them in jail!!!
You're a nazi!!!

Some of it was, of course, veiled in snark for future disavowal, but if there is a real problem here it is how so many people cling to simpleminded bullshit which allows them to so overinflate one particular aspect of our culture or history that they end up in a myopic quest to "fix" it through equally small minded means. If there is a threat, this is it.
post #20 of 105
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

so many people cling to simpleminded bullshit

like guns, and religion?
post #21 of 105
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post

like guns, and religion?

I see less of a difference every day.
post #22 of 105
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

So, I am dumb enough to open this thread and what I read is...

It's the police state!!!
It's the racists!!!
It's the rich!!!
Throw them in jail!!!
You're a nazi!!!

Some of it was, of course, veiled in snark for future disavowal, but if there is a real problem here it is how so many people cling to simpleminded bullshit which allows them to so overinflate one particular aspect of our culture or history that they end up in a myopic quest to "fix" it through equally small minded means. If there is a threat, this is it.

To carry it further, it's these people who keep prolifically breeding that makes it a long-term threat.
post #23 of 105
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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

Yeah, I mean I totally yearn for the days when our national economy was fueled by hereditary slavery. And then, after that, that glorious stretch of racial segregation.

That's what I hear from the left anytime nostalgia is brought up, as if the only difference between today and yesterday is civil rights.
post #24 of 105
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

I see less of a difference every day.

not sure i follow.

between guns and religion? left and right?
post #25 of 105
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post

not sure i follow.

between guns and religion? left and right?

Between the simple folk who cling to their guns and religion and the nuanced sophisticates that cling to their untenable theories on race, power and economy. Of course, I don't want to leave out those who believe we can just lock em all up because the true danger to the nation is people not following some of the ridiculous laws already in place.
post #26 of 105
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

So, I am dumb enough to open this thread and what I read is...

It's the police state!!!
It's the racists!!!
It's the rich!!!
Throw them in jail!!!
You're a nazi!!!

Some of it was, of course, veiled in snark for future disavowal, but if there is a real problem here it is how so many people cling to simpleminded bullshit which allows them to so overinflate one particular aspect of our culture or history that they end up in a myopic quest to "fix" it through equally small minded means. If there is a threat, this is it.

Yes, we obviously need complex-minded bullshit instead of the simpleminded kind. Our betters are doing such a good job with that right now.

EDIT - Ah, see you just addressed that.
post #27 of 105
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Yes, we obviously need complex-minded bullshit instead of the simpleminded kind. Our betters are doing such a good job with that right now.

Don't be such a simple fuck. See above.
post #28 of 105
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

Between the simple folk who cling to their guns and religion and the nuanced sophisticates that cling to their untenable theories on race, power and economy. Of course, I don't want to leave out those who believe we can just lock em all up because the true danger to the nation is people not following some of the ridiculous laws already in place.

I don't know that any of it is nuanced any more. What I see on Facebook nearly daily appalls me, and this is from Ivy-educated people. It's absolutely no more ignorant or untenable than anything you'd see on Fox News.

EDIT: So then, WTF is going on? Is this really any different than it ever was? Or have civic attitudes, even amongst the educated, changed over the past 20 years? Are we just imagining this? Part of a cycle we've seen before and that will swing back on its own? Or is this really what makes America, well, closer to a point of no return?
post #29 of 105
The chicken littles just exchange places and mock each other when some new event comes. Both sides become more ridiculous as their theories become falsified and they strive to make them increasingly less testable.
post #30 of 105
This same topic with the same replies reminds me of ongoing discussions about New York (mostly the city) in the late 60's and 70's.
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