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post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by AlexE View Post

I think the choice charcoal vs. navy is purely a matter of personal taste. Both are equally correct and both are extremely versatile.
I agree - even though I think a ticket pocket would be fine. What I would add is to keep the suit well proportioned, i.e. no skinny lapel, jacket and trousers not excessively tight or skinny. Also combine it with a shirt, which should not be skin tight neither when you are standing nor when you are sitting.
I agree - black is the classic / conservative shoe color for both navy and charcoal suits. Most SF members (including myself) consider the combination dark brown shoes and navy suits aesthetically a bit more pleasing, but in the most conservative business situations incl. job interviews I recommend playing it safe and sticking to black oxford shoes with no or limited broguing.

This is what I'm thinking of. Black is a classic combination, but I find dark brown to be a much nicer combination with navy. However, since the black suit (which should subsequently be used for evening only!) can only take black shoes he's better of focusing on a good black pair (balmoral style, either plain toe or cap toe with no detail work).
post #17 of 26
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the feedback guys, changed the order to a charcoal. It has a really subtle (and I mean really subtle) design in the background but you can't even see it unless you're super close. I went with this because it was safer and more suitable for me than a pinstripe suit but just barely different enough from a plain charcoal suit to stay interesting. 

 

On to buying shoes now... is it really a bad idea to wear dark brown shoes to an interview? I really dig the charcoal brown shoes look as seen here: 

 

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8900000/oel-Mchale-Photo-shoot-for-GQ-joel-mchale-8977322-409-516.jpg

post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by shadowsnuzzy View Post

 

On to buying shoes now... is it really a bad idea to wear dark brown shoes to an interview? I really dig the charcoal brown shoes look as seen here: 

 

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8900000/oel-Mchale-Photo-shoot-for-GQ-joel-mchale-8977322-409-516.jpg

 

I think you already know the answer to that question, but I suspect that, just as you were hellbent on avoiding a plain color suit, you are committed to finding a justification for purchasing brown shoes as your first pair.

 

If I sound curt, it's probably because you came asking for advice on a suit and everyone here told you the exact same thing -- which you then went on to ignore. Now you want advice on shoes?

post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Alex Dumortier View Post

 

I think you already know the answer to that question, but I suspect that, just as you were hellbent on avoiding a plain color suit, you are committed to finding a justification for purchasing brown shoes as your first pair.

 

If I sound curt, it's probably because you came asking for advice on a suit and everyone here told you the exact same thing -- which you then went on to ignore. Now you want advice on shoes?

You really should go with black shoes to the interview. I think charcoal suits and dark brown shoes look good together, but wait until you have the job before you start wearing that combination. Maybe no one will even look at your shoes or care that they are brown, but I wouldn't take the chance.

post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by shadowsnuzzy View Post

Thanks for the feedback guys, changed the order to a charcoal. It has a really subtle (and I mean really subtle) design in the background but you can't even see it unless you're super close. I went with this because it was safer and more suitable for me than a pinstripe suit but just barely different enough from a plain charcoal suit to stay interesting. 

On to buying shoes now... is it really a bad idea to wear dark brown shoes to an interview? I really dig the charcoal brown shoes look as seen here: 

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8900000/oel-Mchale-Photo-shoot-for-GQ-joel-mchale-8977322-409-516.jpg

Wear black shoes to an interview. An interview is just not the time to wear a look that you think is cool; it's a time to dress conservatively. By all means try out dark brown shoes with a charcoal suit on your own time; it's a fine look. Keep in mind that in the photo you linked to, the suit appears to be a medium grey. Charcoal is considerably darker and needs a very dark brown shoe (or black).
post #21 of 26
From my own experience and reading these forums, I think that a good order of purchase might be:

1. Charcoal or dark grey
2. Navy blue
3. Medium Grey
4. Variation of 1, 2, 3

I would probably stay away from a patterned suit for interviews, although traditional pinstripes should be okay.

For the shoes, I don't think there is anything wrong with nice dark brown dress shoes. I wore brown dress shoes to all my interviews last year (medical faculty) with a navy suit and actually got a lot of compliments from interviewers.

Not sure how others feel about this, but please wear a solid white shirt with the suit for interviews. I have been an interviewer for med school and residency/fellowship positions, and usually don't care much about the way people dress, but I've had several people come through wearing black suits with maroon or orange shirts and neon-looking ties and it always makes me cringe.
post #22 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Alex Dumortier View Post

I think you already know the answer to that question, but I suspect that, just as you were hellbent on avoiding a plain color suit, you are committed to finding a justification for purchasing brown shoes as your first pair.

If I sound curt, it's probably because you came asking for advice on a suit and everyone here told you the exact same thing -- which you then went on to ignore. Now you want advice on shoes?

I do listen to the advice. I was actually pretty much commited to buying the pinstripe suit, the guy already cut the fabric too, but because of this thread at the last minute I told him I want something else. What I got is basically solid like everyone recommended, the pattern is in the way the material was stitcher together and I couldn't even tell there was a pattern until I really looked closely.

For the shoes I was actually curious. I currently have a pair of shitty black dress shoes and I can only spend $150 tops on a decent dress shoe so I have to chose between brown and black. Realistically, I'll be wearing this suit less for interviews and more for just business related things and events in general, so I'm starting to think the brown might be a better option. Based on what everyone said, I will definitely invest in a black before I start real interviews.

Shirts I think I'm covered on. I have 1 white and 4 pastel colors in blue, violet, mint, ect. I'm 100% positive the white and pastel blue will work wonderfully for even the most conservative interviews. The other colors might be pushing it even though they are pastel and not strong.
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by shadowsnuzzy View Post


I do listen to the advice. I was actually pretty much commited to buying the pinstripe suit, the guy already cut the fabric too, but because of this thread at the last minute I told him I want something else. What I got is basically solid like everyone recommended, the pattern is in the way the material was stitcher together and I couldn't even tell there was a pattern until I really looked closely.

For the shoes I was actually curious. I currently have a pair of shitty black dress shoes and I can only spend $150 tops on a decent dress shoe so I have to chose between brown and black. Realistically, I'll be wearing this suit less for interviews and more for just business related things and events in general, so I'm starting to think the brown might be a better option. Based on what everyone said, I will definitely invest in a black before I start real interviews.

Shirts I think I'm covered on. I have 1 white and 4 pastel colors in blue, violet, mint, ect. I'm 100% positive the white and pastel blue will work wonderfully for even the most conservative interviews. The other colors might be pushing it even though they are pastel and not strong.

 

Perhaps I overreacted a bit... $150 on eBay can get you a classic model from Allen Edmonds in superb condition. The reason I know this is that I just bought the following pair at that price:


 

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post #24 of 26
Thread Starter 
Wow, I'll look into that
post #25 of 26

I would buy a black cap-toe oxford.  An affordable option is to call one of the Allen Edmonds outlets and order a Park Avenue model in your size. You may also want to check your local Nordstrom Rack (which carries Allen Edmonds) or Brooks Brothers outlet.  Other good brands include Alden, Crockett and Jones, and Edward Green, but they tend to be expensive outside of Ebay, and they don't have outlet stores, at least in the US.

 

 

Remember that the company will be deciding whether to take a one hundred thousand dollar a year bet on you (salary plus benefits, give or take a great deal depending on the position).  Are you worth it? Can you get along with other people?  Are you going to show up on time, work hard, and listen to your boss?  So it's best to look conservative, credible, and trustworthy.  There are two extremes to avoid: looking too sloppy or too fashionable.  You don't want the interviewers to think you are a slob, but you also don't want them to think you care more about your appearance than your performance.  I would err on the conservative side, especially for an interview.

 

Too sloppy:

 

 

 

Too fashionable (for an interview, though perhaps it can be worn outside of work):


Edited by CrimsonSox - 8/11/13 at 2:53am
post #26 of 26

Just to be clear: Even though I posted a pic of a pair of brown shoes, I second the advice from most of the members above, i.e. go with a black shoe. As CrimsonSox pointed out, you really can't go wrong with a black cap-to Oxford.

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