Originally Posted by GeneralW
First of all, thank you very much for taking your time to write such a wonderful response.
I didn't realize the 50% off one only came in a 46L so that's definitely out of the picture. I don't personally mind the pleats since it's only one reverse pleat, but the fit does still worry me - I don't think I would look bad in it, but I think I could look better in a suit that's a bit slimmer. I will definitely go into the store today and ask about the Canali suits. I live in NYC so I'm not sure if that means I'm more likely to find them or that they're more likely to have been bought already. $1,200 is a bit pricey for my first suit, but definitely still within the budget range; however, do you think those patterns are subtle enough for me to wear all the time like a solid charcoal or navy suit?
Thank you for the suggestion on the Santoni's, I will take a look at them too when I go in today. The only thing being that I might be an E instead of a D which I did not see online, but maybe they have it in store. Now I'm all for spending more money for something of better quality that'll last me longer but in this case I feel like getting two pairs of AEs might be more practical than the one pair of Santoni's, but I'll get to compare them side by side in store.
Likewise I have only heard good things about their customer service. My mom is an avid shopper at Nordstrom and Bloomingdales and she always seem to be able to exchange and return stuff at will.
EDIT: Do you know anything about the Daltons? I probably won't buy them this sale but I was curious as to their use/versatility since they're beautiful boots.
You're very welcome.
Unfortunately, the sale suit you looked at is now listed under Nordstrom Rack which means all the residual inventory has already been sent to their clearance centers. As such, finding your size in that suit--if it even exists anymore--is going to be like finding a needle in a haystack. It's a shame too because IMO, that was the best of all the ones you listed. As far as pleats are concerned, stick to flat-front for now. The problem with pleated pants is that it can be difficult to keep them laying properly. Something as simple as sitting down can cause the pleats to rumple which can lead to the pants "billowing" after a few wears. There was an article years ago about when Pierce Brosnan met with Brioni to discuss what his character (007) would be wearing in one of the upcoming films. When Pierce came into the room, he was wearing pleated pants. Before he sat down, he tucked his pleats inward (I think). The reps for Brioni were extremely impressed that he knew how to "properly" wear pleated pants.
The two Canali suits that I would consider--as a building block for your tailored wardrobe, would be the navy stripe or the grey pinhead. Both have very subtle patterns which lend themselves to working with a variety of shirt/tie patterns. True, they're not as "idiot-proof" as a solid suit, but they're pretty forgiving overall. Are they worth the extra money? Dunno. Only you can answer that for yourself. Try one on in your size--even if it's a full priced one, just to get the overall feel and silhouette. Compare it to the Hickey. Quality-wise, they're comparable, so go with what you like better.
For me, I'm partial to Canali because it's a "90%" suit OTR for me. Meaning, the fit is 90% of where it should be straight off the rack. And when I say straight off the rack, the only alterations I get, if any at all, are shortening the sleeves ~half an inch. My recent sports coat--from the sale--required zero alterations. Even the tailor was surprised. Also, it's not just that it fits, it's flattering on me as well. I worked for a high-end retailer years ago in my youth, so while i may not be as "passionate" about correcting that remaining 10% as some on this site are, I do know what should absolutely be done and what could be considered "optional".
Santoni shoes come in D width. Some models come in a wide (EE), but I don't think this model did. I, too, wear a E width. So, I went up half a size and the shoes fit like my Canalis, 90%. Maybe 95%. Give it a shot and like the suits, compare the two.
My thoughts on the Daltons? I need to go no further than cite your own feelings about them; you find them beautiful. As such, you'll find something to wear them with and a reason to wear them. At the end of the day, it's about putting on something that makes us feel good about ourselves. In this regard, logic seldom plays a role.