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post #31 of 222
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

There isn't an accepted definition of what looks good; I accept that.

 

There is, however, a fairly accepted definition of CM. This doesn't enter into it. CM is about expressing your style within certain traditional--and admittedly inorganic--boundaries. Subtle coloring outside the lines demonstrates skill and finesse. SW&D is about artfully working outside rules or at least pushing them to their breaking point.

 

This thread clearly belongs in SW&D; there are quite a few people there who will probably work the vest-sans-jacket to great effect.

 

On a related note, here is a picture of me sitting on a toilet:

 

 

Edit: Both ACS and Tira walk the boundaries of CM. ACS crosses the boundaries more, but he does it with a sense of fun, takes his lumps when they come, and isn't defensive. In short, he has the personality for it to work (as well the taste, generally--sorry ACS, but I can't get behind that one four sided tie or those jeans redface.gif)

 

I like this. I can't see the tie very well, however. Is it knit?
post #32 of 222
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post



theres your odd vest, but its done properly, with suit pants.

I like that shirt/tie combo. Nice work.
post #33 of 222
I don't really get the sw&d vs cm thing my subscriptions are a mix and I check new posts for threads im interested in . In other words Im a bit color blind in that regards. That said I find this thread of interest
post #34 of 222
On a serious note, judging by the fits of the first posters, this thread was started and encouraged by members who neither understand the nuances of MC, nor SW&D. Neither poster features jeans that fit well, shoes with lasts that flatter the fit, jackets that lend themselves to a separate usage, ties that flatter a more rustic appearance, pocket squares that add any continuity to the look, or shirt combinations that create a good foundation. In short, rather than attempting to cultivate a coherent look, they appear to have grabbed random objects, meant for other uses, out of their closet.

Is it possible to pull the look off? Doubtful. However, it certainly won't come about if you have no concept of why things do or do not work...
post #35 of 222
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

On a serious note, judging by the fits of the first posters, this thread was started and encouraged by members who neither understand the nuances of MC, nor SW&D. Neither poster features jeans that fit well, shoes with lasts that flatter the fit, jackets that lend themselves to a separate usage, ties that flatter a more rustic appearance, pocket squares that add any continuity to the look, and shirt combinations that create a good foundation. In short, rather than attempting to cultivate a coherent look, they appear to have grabbed random objects, meant for other uses, out of their closet.

Is it possible to pull the look off? Doubtful. However, it certainly won't come about if you have no concept of why things do or do not work...

 

That's exactly why this thread is going to be great.
post #36 of 222

I often wear a jacket and vest to work, but take off the jacket when I teach.    

 

 

post #37 of 222
*That* is how you do an odd vest with a loud, odd jacket.
post #38 of 222
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

I like that shirt/tie combo. Nice work.

thanks.
post #39 of 222
Acute, that is a much, much better attempt at this type of thing. The colors and combinations are very busy but overall aesthetically pleasing. You also do a good job in the top post by anchoring a busy jacket with simple combinations. The PS may be a bridge too far, but it certainly is way better than anything from the first two examples.

I do hope everyone realizes, however, that if you add jeans to either of the above looks they go from "tastefully arranged experimentation" to abortion.
post #40 of 222
I'm not convinced it is impossible to wear jeans with a sportcoat, but I am convinced that it is very, very difficult to do. And I'll say impossible with a vest.
post #41 of 222
I don't agree that its that difficult to pair a sportcoat (primarily patch pocket tweed) with dark denim. Then again, I like navy odd trousers which are pentsa-non-grata on this site.
post #42 of 222
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post

I don't agree that its that difficult to pair a sportcoat (primarily patch pocket tweed) with dark denim. Then again, I like navy odd trousers which are pentsa-non-grata on this site.

Agreed. I think some tweed jackets and denim can be pulled off, but not much more beyond that.
post #43 of 222
Rustic tweed is, honestly, the only SC I can imagine working well with denim. I could be convinced otherwise, but that's all I have off the top of my head.

Black/white herringbone Harris Tweed is what I am imagining in my mind.

Still, hard to do well.
post #44 of 222
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post

I don't agree that its that difficult to pair a sportcoat (primarily patch pocket tweed) with dark denim. Then again, I like navy odd trousers which are pentsa-non-grata on this site.

I've seen odd jackets (often tweed) paired very well with jeans. Agree that this can be done.
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

On a serious note, judging by the fits of the first posters, this thread was started and encouraged by members who neither understand the nuances of MC, nor SW&D. Neither poster features jeans that fit well, shoes with lasts that flatter the fit, jackets that lend themselves to a separate usage, ties that flatter a more rustic appearance, pocket squares that add any continuity to the look, or shirt combinations that create a good foundation. In short, rather than attempting to cultivate a coherent look, they appear to have grabbed random objects, meant for other uses, out of their closet.

Is it possible to pull the look off? Doubtful. However, it certainly won't come about if you have no concept of why things do or do not work...

+1.
post #45 of 222
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

Agreed. I think some tweed jackets and denim can be pulled off, but not much more beyond that.

worsted jackets and jeans hardly ever looks good.

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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Rustic tweed is, honestly, the only SC I can imagine working well with denim. I could be convinced otherwise, but that's all I have off the top of my head.

Black/white herringbone Harris Tweed is what I am imagining in my mind.

Still, hard to do well.

black/white herrigbone works in my experience. I also have a grey flannel SC that I think works with dressy jeans and a pair of black loafers.
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