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post #166 of 222
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Originally Posted by size 38R View Post

#haha Claghorn, must have either a odd vest, jacket. fits with jeans are a bonus.

There are a lot of threads on odd jackets already and plenty of fit pictures with them as they're a staple of classic menswear. Odd vests really aren't (not saying they can't be used well or look good, because they can, but certainly not a staple) and I got the sense that the point of this thread was more to showcase odd vest looks. Start putting in too many pure odd jacket pictures and it defeats the purpose of starting the new thread, at least IMO.
post #167 of 222

There is already a thread for breaking rules, and trying to break them well:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/309785/waywrn-peacock-edition/15

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From a few weeks back. Tie is too close in color to the jacket, pants are patterned and darker than the jacket

 

 

 

 

 

There are also the Friday Challenges which impose not orthodox rules on fits

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No tie challenge from a few months back

 

post #168 of 222

I'm all for a thread devoted to odd vests - it's been a bit of an obsession for me recently :). These are some of my inspirations.

 

Alan See, wearing the same jacket & vest two ways:

 

 

 

Love him, hate him, or just feel "meh", Wooster definitely tries stuff out -- I can't abide by the sloppy shirt sleeves or the ridiculous unbuttoned tab collar, and the lapel pin is a distraction, but I think that the every-piece-a-different-tweed here actually works, with the exception of the tie - a black knit would anchor things better, imo. 

 

 

Ring jacket - I'm having Beckett & Robb make me a similar vest in a wool/linen blend to go with my blue linen suit, amongst other things:

 

 

Does this qualify as an FU jacket?

 

post #169 of 222
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Originally Posted by katabatic View Post

I'm all for a thread devoted to odd vests - it's been a bit of an obsession for me recently :). These are some of my inspirations.

 

Alan See, wearing the same jacket & vest two ways:

 

 

 

Love him, hate him, or just feel "meh", Wooster definitely tries stuff out -- I can't abide by the sloppy shirt sleeves or the ridiculous unbuttoned tab collar, and the lapel pin is a distraction, but I think that the every-piece-a-different-tweed here actually works, with the exception of the tie - a black knit would anchor things better, imo. 

 

 

Ring jacket - I'm having Beckett & Robb make me a similar vest in a wool/linen blend to go with my blue linen suit, amongst other things:

 

 

Does this qualify as an FU jacket?

 

Love it! A local guy nonetheless! I'm thinking we've met (or at least glanced at each other) at the B&R SF meet up in April...puzzled.gif

 

Love the Wooster except when he wears MC top and short shorts bottom with boots...Tried to be open mind about it but yeeeerrrrrrrr...uhoh.gif

post #170 of 222
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Love it! A local guy nonetheless! I'm thinking we've met (or at least glanced at each other) at the B&R SF meet up in April...puzzled.gif

 

Love the Wooster except when he wears MC top and short shorts bottom with boots...Tried to be open mind about it but yeeeerrrrrrrr...uhoh.gif

 

Yep, I was at that meetup! I'm the bald white guy who's not Gus (abitofcolor) :)

post #171 of 222
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Originally Posted by katabatic View Post

I'm all for a thread devoted to odd vests - it's been a bit of an obsession for me recently :). These are some of my inspirations.

 

Alan See, wearing the same jacket & vest two ways:

 

 

 

 

IMO, the first one is very nice despite some GQ-esque accessorizing, the second isn't so good and not because you can't do denim, vests and rough-textured jackets - of course you can and I do it all the time in the autumn/winter. It fails because it can't decide what it is and I think the jacket is not one that looks like it is meant to be on its own, the particular waistcoat doesn't work in combination with those jeans and the jeans themselves don't appear to flatter him (or he's got them pulled up rather too tight) - plus I just dislike the roll up your jeans to 3 inches above your shoes thing, although you see it a lot here in Tokyo. Your own recent fit you posted earlier is a far better example of how to do a tailored jacket and vest in a streetwear vein than this (BTW, being British, 'not bad' means 'good', I hope you realised that..).

 

However, both that fit and what we are now discussing is is a world away from the random combinations of orphan suit jackets, bad denim, inappropriate ties, ugly shoe and stupid headwear, posted in the OP. And if we'd started off with this kind of thing instead of 38R behaving like a complete cock then the thread might have been better received from the start, even in CM.


Edited by FlyingMonkey - 7/30/13 at 11:25pm
post #172 of 222

Perhaps we can move the thread back to something approaching civilized and useful. cheers.gif

 

I agree on that jacket -- to be worn with jeans I think it would be better with no shoulder extension, little or no padding, and definitely not a shirred sleeve head. Inspiration, not xerox-ing :). 

 

Both jackets I posted have no padding. The Isaia has a very little bit of canvassing (one layer of haircloth going down only as far as the top button, and two layers in the shoulder), and I'd actually be much happier with it if it were 1/2" narrower in the shoulders (there's a tiny bit of wadding there to define the shoulder a little). The other one has no structuring whatsoever, just a bit of interfacing behind the pockets so the stitching doesn't pull through. 

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post #174 of 222
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IMO, the first one is very nice despite some GQ-esque accessorizing, the second isn't so good and not because you can't do denim, vests and rough-textured jackets - of course you can and I do it all the time in the autumn/winter. It fails because it can't decide what it is and I think the jacket is not one that looks like it is meant to be on its own, the particular waistcoat doesn't work in combination with those jeans and the jeans themselves don't appear to flatter him (or he's got them pulled up rather too tight) - plus I just dislike the roll up your jeans to 3 inches above your shoes thing, although you see it a lot here in Tokyo. Your own recent fit you posted earlier is a far better example of how to do a tailored jacket and vest in a streetwear vein than this (BTW, being British, 'not bad' means 'good', I hope you realised that..).

 

However, both that fit and what we are now discussing is is a world away from the urandom combinations of orphan suit jackets, bad denim, inappropriate ties, ugly shoe and stupid headwear, posted in the OP. And if we'd started off with this kind of thing instead of 38R behaving like a complete cock then the thread might have been better received from the start, even in CM.


Wow, you just don't stop trolling do you?   

post #175 of 222
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Originally Posted by katabatic View Post

Perhaps we can move the thread back to something approaching civilized and useful. cheers.gif

 

I agree on that jacket -- to be worn with jeans I think it would be better with no shoulder extension, little or no padding, and definitely not a shirred sleeve head. Inspiration, not xerox-ing :). 

 

Both jackets I posted have no padding. The Isaia has a very little bit of canvassing (one layer of haircloth going down only as far as the top button, and two layers in the shoulder), and I'd actually be much happier with it if it were 1/2" narrower in the shoulders (there's a tiny bit of wadding there to define the shoulder a little). The other one has no structuring whatsoever, just a bit of interfacing behind the pockets so the stitching doesn't pull through. 

 

Good points - nice to see your fit getting some love over in SW&D too!

 

On breaking suits - I think the questions of whether this should be done or not come down to:

 

1. Pattern - there are particular patterns associated with suiting like chalk or pinstripes that should really be avoided on jackets to be worn as separates;

2. Material - rougher fabrics are suitable for casual suits designed to be worn both together and as separates; worsted wools and so on generally are not;

3. Cut  - looser, less structured etc.;

4. Pocket style - patch pockets being the obvious marker of informality with flapped or jetted pockets usually indicating an inappropriate suit jacket for use as a separate.

 

It's perfectly possible to get suits that you can separate, or even have them made as such, as was especially popular (or at least, often done) in the interwar period, particular when we're talking country / informal / workingman's styles of suit. Some small companies produce clothes of this kind still - Old Town is a key example, which has been reviving British workwear -  I love their Vauxhall trousers. I also have high hopes for their new Japanese-targeted mass-produced label (actually the revivial of an old label), Holdfast. When their stuff is available here, I will get hold of some immediately!

 

The main point here is that just wearing any worsted suit jacket with jeans generally looks bad, but there's no reason why you can't break a loose-cut tweed suit for example.

post #176 of 222
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post

 

Good points - nice to see your fit getting some love over in SW&D too!

 

On breaking suits - I think the questions of whether this should be done or not come down to:

 

1. Pattern - there are particular patterns associated with suiting like chalk or pinstripes that should really be avoided on jackets to be worn as separates;

2. Material - rougher fabrics are suitable for casual suits designed to be worn both together and as separates; worsted wools and so on generally are not;


I have a Helmut Lang black orphan which I wear with casual shirts and raw denim with boots. I find black orphans work best out of all other orphans. The one orphan to rule them all!
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post #177 of 222

A suit, 3 patch pockets, I had made with the intent of breaking it:

 

 

post #178 of 222

x post from WAYWRN

 

post #179 of 222

What's the jacket? It looks a lot like the one I just got from Beckett & Robb. 

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What's the jacket? It looks a lot like the one I just got from Beckett & Robb. 

Uniqlo.  

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