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post #1171 of 1274
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

It does, though.

It definitely does, I have some cracked Kangaroo Williams boots here. To be fair they are probably 13 or 14 years old though and are still mostly alive..

Charlie
post #1172 of 1274

Bonaudo is the only Italian tannery where I could find kangaroo. Their "glass flower" 'roo looks like glace kid, but is almost as strong as calf.

post #1173 of 1274
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It does, though.

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Originally Posted by Equus Leather View Post

It definitely does, I have some cracked Kangaroo Williams boots here. To be fair they are probably 13 or 14 years old though and are still mostly alive..

Charlie

Indeed, it does and I have witnessed it. all skin can and will. I was being faecetious given pb's unfortunate experience of cracking uppers.

Although come to think of it I never saw ostrich crack!
post #1174 of 1274
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Bonaudo is the only Italian tannery where I could find kangaroo. Their "glass flower" 'roo looks like glace kid, but is almost as strong as calf.

What about Mondovi have they stopped?

I was always under the impression that a lot of kangaroo were tanned in Italy, outside Oz of course.
post #1175 of 1274
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What about Mondovi have they stopped?

I was always under the impression that a lot of kangaroo were tanned in Italy, outside Oz of course.

 

Never found Mondovi leathers in Rome, unfortunately...

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Non è vicino a Roma
post #1177 of 1274
Well they appear to still be doing kangaroo biggrin.gif

http://www.conciariamondovi.com

Took me a while to find their site though, it's been a long time.
post #1178 of 1274
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Non è vicino a Roma

 

No, è 700 km più su.

post #1179 of 1274
Well you did say Bonaudo is the only Italian tannery where you could find kangaroo, it's more likely it's the only one in Rome, not Italy.
post #1180 of 1274
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Well you did say Bonaudo is the only Italian tannery where you could find kangaroo, it's more likely it's the only one in Rome, not Italy.

 

Yes, I should've been clearer.

post #1181 of 1274
Non ti preoccupà
post #1182 of 1274

I had a few question on suede and I thought you guys would do the best at cutting through the broscience of shoe care.

:nest:(I might get in trouble with the bro science guys :D)

 

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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post




That said, all leather fails sometime, in some way. There are suede conditioners, however, specifically designed to prolong the life of the leather. I would not put a conditioner meant for full grain calf on suede. Not even on the grain side.

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Sorry for digging this post up  from the past.

 

I have been looking to see if there are actually ways to condition suede. And have had very little luck. (All products seem to be either recoloring or water proofing. Only one talks about conditioning: http://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-suede-spray.html and even then its not really its core purpose)

 

When you said:

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There are suede conditioners, however, specifically designed to prolong the life of the leather

Can you name one? (I have some reverse calf suede)

 

The only one I ever found was http://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-suede-spray.html it says it throws some almond oil into the recoloring spray.

 

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A few separate reverse calf suede questions.

1) If you condition the smooth size of of reverse-calf suede do you need to condition the furry/suede side? (e.g. Just condition the smooth side and don't worry about the furry side? )

2) Or can you directly condition the sueded/furry side? (Especially with reverse calf suede shoes that have a calfskin shoe lining that prevents us from being able to touch the smooth grain side of the suede)

 

3) following up on 2) if you can condition it directly could you just throw some lexol conditioner into an spray bottle so that it does not flatten the nap?

4) If suede is just leather why do so many people think that it will never crack and never moisturize it? (Most folks just do recoloring/waterproofing steps from what i have seen)

 

If you know were this info already exist feel free to point me to it. I have searched a while and found very little.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by glenjay View Post

 For suede I use conditioning shampoo that uses coconut oil for the conditioner.
 

 

Could you point me to this conditioner for suede. I have been searching for one. But have only found the saphir one. (Also feel free to answer the above suede questions if you know the answers.)
http://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-suede-spray.html


Edited by leetpuma - 3/29/14 at 11:02pm
post #1183 of 1274
Interested in the same as well! I tried to put some lexol conditioner on a pair of suede boat shoes, just to test; they are noticeably softer, but got some whitish residue on them - I would not recommend on doing it on regular suede. I think Glenjay is talking about regular shampoo with coconut oil in it, like this.
post #1184 of 1274
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Originally Posted by leetpuma View Post


I have been looking to see if there are actually ways to condition suede. And have had very little luck. (All products seem to be either recoloring or water proofing. Only one talks about conditioning: http://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-suede-spray.html and even then its not really its core purpose)

Can you name one? (I have some reverse calf suede)

Not off hand. But I used to carry a product (and knew of several other brands) that were touted as cleaners and conditioners for suede. All of them were sprays. Meltonian had a product as I recall. Leather Magic and I think even Cavalier marketed a spray conditioner.


1) yes, that's probably correct...if you have access to the smooth side.

2) The products say you can. Any cleaner probably will condition the leather as well. But, of course, cleaning is almost as critical as conditioning. Maybe moreso.

3) Never tried that. Perhaps if you could atomize the liquid sufficiently it would work.

4) Ignorance? As I've said many times, there is no sin in ignorance only in choosing to remain ignorant. All leather needs cleaning and conditioning.

The Saphir may be the best product available...that's what I would use if it were me. But...

http://www.amazon.com/Meltonian-Suede-Nubuck-Cleaner-Conditioner/dp/B00B5XI0R6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1396183306&sr=8-3&keywords=Suede+Leather+Conditioner
post #1185 of 1274
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post


Not off hand. But I used to carry a product (and knew of several other brands) that were touted as cleaners and conditioners for suede. All of them were sprays. Meltonian had a product as I recall. Leather Magic and I think even Cavalier marketed a spray conditioner.


1) yes, that's probably correct...if you have access to the smooth side.

2) The products say you can. Any cleaner probably will condition the leather as well. But, of course, cleaning is almost as critical as conditioning. Maybe moreso.

3) Never tried that. Perhaps if you could atomize the liquid sufficiently it would work.

4) Ignorance? As I've said many times, there is no sin in ignorance only in choosing to remain ignorant. All leather needs cleaning and conditioning.

The Saphir may be the best product available...that's what I would use if it were me. But...

http://www.amazon.com/Meltonian-Suede-Nubuck-Cleaner-Conditioner/dp/B00B5XI0R6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1396183306&sr=8-3&keywords=Suede+Leather+Conditioner


Cool I guess ill have to spring for the saphir stuff. 

 

Oh and you said cleaning was almost as important as conditioning.  Could you elaborate as to why this is? Is it just that cleaning opens the pores back up or something?

 

If i am able to get my hands on some scrap suede leather I may test the spray-lexol theory. If I do ill report back, but it may be sometime before I do.

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