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post #991 of 1242

$209 for Cannon monkstrap is a good deal, isn't it? 

post #992 of 1242

MSR

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$209 for Cannon monkstrap is a good deal, isn't it? 

BNIB?

 

MSRP in the UK is £209 GBP so, yes, $209 for a pair BNIB looks like a good price to me.

post #993 of 1242

Yep, it's brandnew in box. Gilt.com is running sale-off of Loake shoes.

post #994 of 1242
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Yep, it's brandnew in box. Gilt.com is running sale-off of Loake shoes.

If you're a UK6, then go for it (the only size left from what I could tell) :)

post #995 of 1242
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"Tougher leather" is probably just lower quality leather.

There's an awful lot of variation in a hide and the more expensive cuts of leather would no doubt go to more expensive shoes.

Here's a handy guide from Justin FitzPatrick, The Shoe Snob.

http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/06/leather-quality-how-it-varies.html

I have a pair of L1's toe cap and they are considerably firmer than my 1880's. To the extent I won't be buying the L1's again all else being equal. I'll be looking to pick them up in sales etc ahead of when needed.
post #996 of 1242

He he, I picked the 6.5UK one before.

post #997 of 1242
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I have a sad life and have read  many of the reviews of Loake shoes on their site. A frequent comment is that the Made in India shoes have tougher leather than the UK made ones and take  ages to break in. Are different leathers used in the two countries? I had imagined that Loake's outsource the production costs of  shoes for economical reasons (which, in passing, raises some ethical questions). But is it more than about production costs but about leather quality too? Most of the Indian shoes are made of corrected grain leather but some are full grain. Or is this all about a sentimental attitude towards UK made shoes?  Sincerely yours, Munky. 


"Tougher leather" is probably just lower quality leather.

There's an awful lot of variation in a hide and the more expensive cuts of leather would no doubt go to more expensive shoes.

Here's a handy guide from Justin FitzPatrick, The Shoe Snob.

http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/06/leather-quality-how-it-varies.html

Thanks Odradek. 

 

Munky's question has prompted me to ask where everybody first found out that there was such a thing as corrected grain leather.

 

This is intended as a fun thread to see how we've all evolved our knowledge to where we ask such questions.

 

I'll lead off by saying that SF was the first time I'd ever considered the hierarchy of shoes. Turned everything upside down. I began to look at things more critically and realised that the derby shoes I had previously thought were the "bees knees" - were not quite as good as I had once thought. 

 

Neither did I appreciate the difference between oxfords and derbys - and yes, I confess that there was a time that I thought tassled slip-ons with suits looked really smart (but only because all my peers were wearing them).

 

But even though I know this now, the derby shoes I referred to are still smart shoes and you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.

 

They're probably corrected grain (don't know for sure - but the Australian members forum disapproves of the brand (Aquila) so they probably are).

 

However, they're a good fit and very comfortable and I'm happy to keep wearing them.

 

So that's my story to start things off - is anybody else interested in sharing their shoe knowledge journey?

post #998 of 1242

After some horse trading, I managed to persuade my wife to let me buy the Loake, brown, Buckinghams. They are beautiful!  I use Saphir products mostly. What shade of cream and wax would anyone  here use on these shoes? I don't really want to get into a big debate about shoe polishing!  Just the shade of Saphir will do me!

post #999 of 1242

Difficult to say without knowing the precise colour. But the photos of the brown shoes seem close to mahogany  - medium brown anyway.

 

If it is close to mahogany, then medium brown cream would probably work. You might consider a sparing application of burgundy occasionally if you wanted to give it the "red' that is often seen in mahogany.

 

The dark brown seems close to the Aldwych and I have Saphir dark brown for those.

post #1000 of 1242

Thanks for that, ajc.  

 

My journey into shoes and shoe care started a year or two ago when I came across the 'Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos etc' thread, on SF.  I learned all about the different sorts of leathers, creams, waxes, welts and so on. I bought a pair of Loake's shoes and never really looked back (except of give some corrected grain shoes to the charity shop). Loakes 1880's are the most expensive shoes I can afford, although I do have some Herring shoes, too. I am sure you would enjoy the above, thread. DO, lurk for quite a long time before you sign in, though. There a really serious people on there, from shoe makers, to those who have bespoke shoes. It is very worthwhile to look at the pages of past postings on there. But..don't ask questions about things like cleaning shoes, what polishes and waxes to buy and so on. These sorts of questions tend to be treated very briskly!  Have a look!  Regards, Munky.

 

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post #1001 of 1242

Thanks mate. I'd love to stay and chat - but time zone tyranny means it's 1am here and I'm off to bed.

 

I'll catch up later.

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Pedants' corner. For waxing my 1880 Burgundy Strands, I find the Saphir Burgundy wax a much better match than Loake's own Burgundy. The Loake wax is a bit dark. Having said that, Loake must be happy with the colour of their wax or they wouldn't sell it!

Your post came at fortuitous time because I was waiting for the back order of my Strand mahogany and burgundy shoes.  So I took the opportunity to email Richard at Shoehealer to ask his opinion about going with either Saphir or Loake.

 

He’s told me he uses Saphir burgundy cream himself and that he has no personal experience with Loake branded polish; so he can’t make a comparison or give an opinion. However, he has generously offered to give me the Loake burgundy wax to try, and see what I think.  

 

That’s a lovely gesture because I don’t really care one way or the other.  I doubt there would be much difference between Saphir and Loake – for as you said yourself “….. Loake must be happy with the colour of their wax or they wouldn't sell it!”

 

There doesn’t appear to be a Saphir mahogany cream available so we’ve settled on Saphir medium brown cream – and I have the option of using a little of the burgundy if I feel the mahogany could do with some reddening.

 

He also gave me a useful tip for the burgundy Strands.  If after a few polishes, I feel it is a little too “red”, then I can elect to go over it with just a tiny amount of “black” to tone the colour down a little.

 

The shipment is supposed to arrive tomorrow; so I’m rubbing my hands with anticipation.

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There doesn’t appear to be a Saphir mahogany cream available

 

yes there is, ordered mine from Pediwear: http://www.pediwear.co.uk/saphir-shoe-care/products/5583.php

post #1004 of 1242
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He also gave me a useful tip for the burgundy Strands.  If after a few polishes, I feel it is a little too “red”, then I can elect to go over it with just a tiny amount of “black” to tone the colour down a little.

But why on earth would anyone want to do that. The redder the better.
I even feel that Kiwi burgundy polish and also the burgundy that Herring shoes supply are too dark.
post #1005 of 1242

Hi, Ajc. Yes, Loake are really good at after sales support, they are very generous and helpful. I have had the same experiences as you. I know that there is a lot of debate about Loake's own products versus Saphir ones. I suspect (but don't know) that all good polishes are much the same. I don't think that the 'man in the street' could give us an opinion of which product is best!  

 

The burgundy Strands are a wonderful colour. I can see the point about using black to tone things down but I think they get even better as they get a red tinge!  I am a bit nervous about trying to change the colour - although I have had some success with 'darkening' a pair of (cheaper) tan shoes that started out a pretty gross colour. As I understand it, you can darken a shoe colour but not lighten it. 

 

The Buckinghams are the first shoes I have worn that were comfortably, all day, on their first outing. They are made on the same last as the Strands. They do feel a bit different from each other, perhaps because of the detail. Great shoes, either way!  Hope you enjoy your new ones!  M.

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