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post #2281 of 2394
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Originally Posted by fraseringermany View Post

When I put them on they feel quite tight but not uncomfortable. After a little bit, the tightness turns to discomfort. It feels like my feet have been wrapped in a tight bandage from about the ball of the foot on towards the back. After about an hour, I felt like they were throbbing.

Like I said, I have never really had "nice" shoes before and I am a late switch Cher at 43.

It is not unlike wearing very tight hockey skates if that helps the analogy.

 

Hmm... an interesting case. First obvious question, have you done everything you could with the lacing?

 

It could be an issue of:

a. Shoes not having been broken in properly

b. Shoes being tolerably tight in some areas (after all, there's no perfect fit in RTW)

c. Shoes being intolerably misfit in some areas

d. A combination of the above

 

The exact cause is something only you will find. Most people when they get a new pair on an unfamiliar last will try a few break-in sessions before deciding to keep, return, or re-sell (one of the reasons you see so much shoe on B&S).

 

I would suggest (in case you aren't doing them already):

1. Condition and polish shoes. Maybe this will soften the leather just a little so it's less stiff

2. Put in shoe trees when your feet aren't in them. And in your case, find shoe trees with really good spring.

3. Break in the shoes gradually, some thing like 1 hr on carpet, 3hr on carpet, 6 hours on carpet, a whole day on carpet, 6 hours outside and in the office, etc.

 

good luck

post #2282 of 2394
I did indeed re-lace them, but I need to have them pulled tight to lace them closed. I will give it a week of break in sessions in my living room before deciding

I did not want to polish or do too much with them in case i decide to return them.

I have not bought shoe trees yet, will do so next week. I thought I would get them from Loakes or the Loakes ones from Amazon for a good fit. But if the trees are the same size as the shoe I am not sure how that will help stretch them out.

Although it is not quite what I expected, I am still keen on the prospect of nice shoes and plan to stick with them for a week before I try a bigger pair.
post #2283 of 2394
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Originally Posted by fraseringermany View Post

I did indeed re-lace them, but I need to have them pulled tight to lace them closed. I will give it a week of break in sessions in my living room before deciding

I did not want to polish or do too much with them in case i decide to return them.

I have not bought shoe trees yet, will do so next week. I thought I would get them from Loakes or the Loakes ones from Amazon for a good fit. But if the trees are the same size as the shoe I am not sure how that will help stretch them out.

Although it is not quite what I expected, I am still keen on the prospect of nice shoes and plan to stick with them for a week before I try a bigger pair.

 

A couple of things:

 

1. This article might help immensely: http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2016/07/breaking-in-shoes-your-first-30-days.html. That and the comments below gives an idea of what people tend to experience; see if it harmonizes with yours.

 

2. The obvious solution, if you've never really worn nice shoes before, is to get your feet properly measured. You can do it yourself with a Brannock device, or go to a store specializing in high-end mens footwear. Get their most experienced fitter; an ordinary salesman won't do. Compare your foot sizes to the size of the Loake. There's a data point for you.

 

3. There's no point to buying Loake shoe trees, unless they're selling lasted trees for the 1880 line (which i don't think is the case). Get any decent spring loaded wooden shoe tree will work. In your case, I'd try to find a tree that's almost too big, to give the maximum stretch.

 

4. Another approach: Find a decent cobbler. Get his opinion on the fit of the shoes, and whether he could stretch them if they're just a little too small.

post #2284 of 2394
Wow, thanks again for taking the time to share all that with me!
post #2285 of 2394

Fraser, just a couple of other thoughts. I have two pairs of Loake Buckinghams. They are slightly tight when I put them on but fit near-enough perfectly once I have worn them for an hour or so. I admit that I don't understand how this works. It also happens with my Loake Strand's, which are made on the same last but, for some reason, feel different to the Bucks. 

 

On balance, I think it is probably best to have shoes that fit closely rather then ones in which your feet can move around in. I have a couple of pairs that are a bit too big and I have had to use insoles for them. Using insoles is always a hit and miss affair  and - in my experience - not a good choice. 

 

For me, the usual indicator of shoes that are tall small is that my toes get scrunched up in them. This is not good and will soon lead to pinch points and corns. 

 

As they are a new pair of shoes and because you are thinking that they may have to go back to the makers, I wouldn't put any conditioner or polish on them. Most companies insist on accepting returns only if they are in 'saleable' condition. The soles must not look worn, either. Like it or not, I think you are going to have to make a fairly quick decision about whether to keep them or send them back. 

 

Interestingly, Dr Marten's seem to be the only shoe company that will exchange 'fairly worn' boots and shoes. Don't consider throwing yours out, unless you have to. .  I recently meet one of the senior members of the Loake company and his view was that Dr Marten's are very well made. I have  four pairs in my 15 pair shoe collection. Obviously not high end,  DM's usually fit very well, can be very good as wet weather shoes and are generally 'fun'.  Best wishes, Munky. 

post #2286 of 2394

I'm considering my first pair of Loakes.  These seem like they would be a bit more sporty and rugged than Allen Edmonds's Dalton boot.  What do you guys think?  And, if I typically wear a size 14 in Allen Edmonds, should I order a British size 13?

post #2287 of 2394
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Originally Posted by BespokeBrooklyn View Post
 

I'm considering my first pair of Loakes.  These seem like they would be a bit more sporty and rugged than Allen Edmonds's Dalton boot.  What do you guys think?  And, if I typically wear a size 14 in Allen Edmonds, should I order a British size 13?

 

 

What is  your size on the 511 last and 65 last?  

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13EEE or 14E.  Before I got remeasured, I wore 15D in the 65 last, which were a bit long but great in the width, and didn't have any complaints about them.

 

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What is  your size on the 511 last and 65 last?  

post #2289 of 2394
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Originally Posted by BespokeBrooklyn View Post
 

 

Hmm, this could be tricky since you are a little wide.  The good news is that Loakes run wider than AE, at least the capital last does.  I have not tried this boot's last, but I would assume they would be on the generous side since they are for boots.  Loakes does offer a wide width size, but I'm not sure how wide it is compared to AE.  

 

I wear most of my AE's in 8 D, and I wear the 65 last in 7.5 E.  On the Loake capital last, I'm 7 F, and it fits nearly identical to my Park Aves, but slightly roomier on the sides. You might try 13 F or 13 G.    I don't want to give you wrong advice, because I'd hate for your to have to pay the expensive shipping if you order a wrong size.  Perhaps other people can help give their input on how this last fits.   

 

There is a store in the NY area that sells them -- you might be able to try them on in here or at least have them measure you for what they think is best. 

post #2290 of 2394

Because you can never have too many Loake chukkas. :)

post #2291 of 2394

My Shoe buying spree continues.  Just picked up some Chesters in Black for 120 pounds.  I am more than satisfied, fit like a dream out of the box.

post #2292 of 2394
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Originally Posted by fraseringermany View Post
 

My Shoe buying spree continues.  Just picked up some Chesters in Black for 120 pounds.  I am more than satisfied, fit like a dream out of the box.

Chester's for £120, you got a bargain.. well done

post #2293 of 2394
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Originally Posted by Carl1955 View Post
 

Chester's for £120, you got a bargain.. well done

 

they discontinued black so I benefit from this.  I would have probably preferred a nice brown, but black suits my just fine.  Comfy out of the box, I am delighted.

post #2294 of 2394

I am thinking about getting a pair of Loake Petworth chelsea boots, which are on the Claridge last.

 

I am a 11D in Allen Edmond's 65 last (Strands, Park Avenue, etc.) and a 11D in the 201 Last (Warwick).

 

The advice I've heard is to size down one full size, so would a 10F be the best option for me?

post #2295 of 2394
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Originally Posted by maitretea View Post
 

I am thinking about getting a pair of Loake Petworth chelsea boots, which are on the Claridge last.

 

I am a 11D in Allen Edmond's 65 last (Strands, Park Avenue, etc.) and a 11D in the 201 Last (Warwick).

 

The advice I've heard is to size down one full size, so would a 10F be the best option for me?

 

I am 7.5 E on the 65 last and 7 F on the Loake capital last.  I'm thinking 10.5 F might be better, but of course I'm not 100% certain.  I find my Loakes are slightly wider than my Park Aves.

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