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post #151 of 1242
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Originally Posted by alexSF View Post

The CT shoes made by Loake are clearly advertised as made in northampton, lower price shoes are made abroad.

And consider also that CT shoes are always "on sale", the retail price is the sale price.
Some models in the shoemakers line are also made in Northampton but are not 1880 grade, and I suspect those CT are like that
post #152 of 1242
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Originally Posted by alexSF View Post

The CT shoes made by Loake are clearly advertised as made in northampton, lower price shoes are made abroad.

And consider also that CT shoes are always "on sale", the retail price is the sale price.
Some models in the shoemakers line are also made in Northampton but are not 1880 grade, and I suspect those CT are like that

my thoughts as well, you can tell by the finish on the sole, while Herring Loake range is similar sole finish as the 1880 range.
post #153 of 1242
post #154 of 1242
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charge rrp of 350 to 400 pounds for a Loake, what a rip, no wonder they have to run sales all the time, haha.

But they do look like 1880 range, you are right. fing02[1].gif
post #155 of 1242

Looking at the Charles Tyrwhitt thread on SF, the pricier CT shoes appear to be 1880. Then again, Loake makes shoes for Herring and Pediwear too..

 

High RRP, larger 'discounts'... just like in Oz. Makes it attractive for the uninitiated... 

post #156 of 1242
wurger, I have a couple of questions. You mentioned in your Aldwych review (which I enjoyed) that the double stitching on the uppers is neat, same goes for the inside lining. Would you say that one of the bigger differences between the 1880 shoe and the Loake Shoemaker range, even the better ones, is the neatness of finishing? My Kews cannot compare to this standard. You also said the soles have nice patterned grooves, which 'my cobbler applied topy to'. You then go on to talk about a slight imbalance between the sole and heel. Is that imbalance a result of having the topy added? I know some posters here do not advocate the fitting of a stick-on sole for this and other resaons. I should be interested in your views. Thanks
post #157 of 1242
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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post

wurger, I have a couple of questions. You mentioned in your Aldwych review (which I enjoyed) that the double stitching on the uppers is neat, same goes for the inside lining. Would you say that one of the bigger differences between the 1880 shoe and the Loake Shoemaker range, even the better ones, is the neatness of finishing? My Kews cannot compare to this standard. You also said the soles have nice patterned grooves, which 'my cobbler applied topy to'. You then go on to talk about a slight imbalance between the sole and heel. Is that imbalance a result of having the topy added? I know some posters here do not advocate the fitting of a stick-on sole for this and other resaons. I should be interested in your views. Thanks

I have a pair of Loake Tweeds, which is from the shoemaker range, but priced quite close to 1880 range, at 185 pounds, so I find the finishing very good, can't tell much from the uppers, but the tongue is stitched from only one side of the quarter instead of the vamp. The heel top layer is entirely rubber unlike the leather heel with rubber tip.

I can guarantee you that having topy on soles does not in any way throw off the balance of a shoe, it's a complete myth. Firstly, a rubber topy is only 1mm thick, and the cobbler needs to rough up the sole before applying topy, so the actually thickness increase is even less than 1mm, so it's just not enough to affect the balance. Secondly, since I apply topy to all of my shoes, my Tricker's and Alfred Sargents are still perfectly balanced, so I believe it's definitely due to the design and how the heel is made.
post #158 of 1242
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Originally Posted by Yowzer View Post

Looking at the Charles Tyrwhitt thread on SF, the pricier CT shoes appear to be 1880. Then again, Loake makes shoes for Herring and Pediwear too..

High RRP, larger 'discounts'... just like in Oz. Makes it attractive for the uninitiated... 

it's more like the uninformed...
post #159 of 1242

So it appears the differences between the 1880 and the Shoemaker lines are mainly in the finishing touches and the sole. How are the leathers like between the Tweed and say the Aldwych?

 

I second wurger's topy comment. I have topys on most of my shoes. No difference at all in terms of balance or feel other than not slipping anymore on tiles or in the wet. On the other hand, it makes the sole last so much longer. 

 

Edit: 'uninformed' it is... brain's quite dead by now.

post #160 of 1242
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Originally Posted by Yowzer View Post

So it appears the differences between the 1880 and the Shoemaker lines are mainly in the finishing touches and the sole. How are the leathers like between the Tweed and say the Aldwych?

I second wurger's topy comment. I have topys on most of my shoes. No difference at all in terms of balance or feel other than not slipping anymore on tiles or in the wet. On the other hand, it makes the sole last so much longer. 

Edit: 'uninformed' it is... brain's quite dead by now.

To be honest, they are like the same to me when I touch and feel them with my hands, and no difference when I wear them.
post #161 of 1242

Good stuff, cheerio. 

post #162 of 1242
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Originally Posted by Yowzer View Post

So it appears the differences between the 1880 and the Shoemaker lines are mainly in the finishing touches and the sole. How are the leathers like between the Tweed and say the Aldwych?

 

I second wurger's topy comment. I have topys on most of my shoes. No difference at all in terms of balance or feel other than not slipping anymore on tiles or in the wet. On the other hand, it makes the sole last so much longer. 

 

Edit: 'uninformed' it is... brain's quite dead by now.

 

Thanks for the Topy comments. I have tended to have them fitted to more casual shoes but have not done so where more 'formal' styles are concerned. If the day comes when, despite the protection afforded by the Topy, you need to send the shoes back to the manufacturer for a re-sole is there any penalty to pay financially or otherwise?
post #163 of 1242
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For me, the whole point of topy is that I will never need to send the shoes back to manufacturers to resole, and the added grip.
post #164 of 1242
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Originally Posted by Yowzer View Post

So it appears the differences between the 1880 and the Shoemaker lines are mainly in the finishing touches and the sole. How are the leathers like between the Tweed and say the Aldwych?

I second wurger's topy comment. I have topys on most of my shoes. No difference at all in terms of balance or feel other than not slipping anymore on tiles or in the wet. On the other hand, it makes the sole last so much longer. 

Edit: 'uninformed' it is... brain's quite dead by now.

I think that the big part of the price difference between the "made in england" lines (1880/Shoemakers) depends from the imported sewed uppers for the Shoemakers line, and clearly from the quality of raw materials, better in 1880, the finish is pretty the same.
post #165 of 1242
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interesting, Alex, it does make sense, however, how do we know that they are imported?
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