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post #1 of 53
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New job comes with trying to upgrade my wardrobe. In the past I dressed to be fashionable and experienced some of what John T. Molloy in Dress for Success refers to as “Fashion Failure” where I got criticism over my shirt and shoe choices.
This makes we want to enter this higher position with a more conservative style that will not rub co-workers as the flamboyant dresser.

Building a wardrobe starting with:
Brooks Brothers White and blue, spread collar and button-down collar shirts
Brooks Brother – Fredrick fit navy blazer
Banana Republic – light grey herringbone blazer
Banana Republic – black slacks, brown khakis
Allen Edmonds – Park Avenue shoes in black and brown (*********Will the brown PA go well with khakis/Chinos, or would another allen edmond shoe work better*********)


Any suggestions on how to continue to build a wardrobe that doesn’t make me stand out in a negative way, but more as a conservative and he dresses nice kind of way?
Edited by NYliGuy - 7/3/13 at 8:01am
post #2 of 53
You need some additional pants to wear with those blazers. The black ones aren't going to cut it, especially with navy blazers. Return them if you still can. Khakis are fine. Light tan linen pants are a good choice for summer, and mid-gray flannel for fall/winter.
post #3 of 53
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

You need some additional pants to wear with those blazers. The black ones aren't going to cut it, especially with navy blazers. Return them if you still can. Khakis are fine. Light tan linen pants are a good choice for summer, and mid-gray flannel for fall/winter.

Thanks, any suggestions on some mid-gray pants to go with the navy blazer? Normally would avoid J.Crew for work clothes but would it be safe for pants to go with the navy blazer?

The black pants, I already had and I think it matches well with the light gret blazer.

Thoughts?
post #4 of 53
You live in New York, as in one of the fashion capitals of the world? You can find plenty of fantastic places that carry trousers.
post #5 of 53
J Crew should be fine for pants. Brooks Brothers is good, as are about 500 other places in NYC. I got a pair of tropical weight light grey pants from Joseph A. Bank that are surprisingly good (for JAB anyway). I wear then quite often with my navy blazer.

I got my light tan linen pants at Brooks Brothers. I also got my mid-gray flannels there, but they probably aren't carrying flannel this time of year.
post #6 of 53
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You live in New York, as in one of the fashion capitals of the world? You can find plenty of fantastic places that carry trousers.

Not disputing it should be very easy to find places. My concern is more on how I should dress and where I can find not overly expensive items to dress more conservative in a corporate fortune 500 envirnment in a Manhattan office.

As mentioned, in the past I dressed in some of the 'stylish/fashion' shirts from places like Banana Republic and J.Crew and got flack from guys at work. While I should not let other influence my taste/choice I am looking for guidence on how I can dress WELL and still fit in with the corporate business attire as seen as someone put together and and not see overly pretencious or flambouyant/fashion in my attire.

I seen some of John T. Molloy comments on attire in business and while out-dated he mentions stories of how he witnessed people passed over for their dressing. He had a story of several workers up for a position and when reviewing potential canditates in the office, one of the executives made a negative comment and passed over one guy saying somerhing along the lines of his bra and blouses.

again, I know the importance of your appearence in a business envirnment and wouldn't want my attire to offend anyone or stack odds against me in anyway.
post #7 of 53
Avoid most "slim-fit" items if trying to dress conservatively. Skinny ties, narrow lapels, hacking pockets, etc. also tend to look fashion-forward.
post #8 of 53
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Originally Posted by NYliGuy View Post

New job comes with trying to upgrade my wardrobe. In the past I dressed to be fashionable and experienced some of what John T. Molloy in Dress for Success refers to as “Fashion Failure” where I got criticism over my shirt and shoe choices.
This makes we want to enter this higher position with a more conservative style that will not rub co-workers as the flamboyant dresser.

Building a wardrobe starting with:
Brooks Brothers White and blue, spread collar and button-down collar shirts
Brooks Brother – Fredrick fit navy blazer
Banana Republic – light grey herringbone blazer
Banana Republic – black slacks, brown khakis
Allen Edmonds – Park Avenue shoes in black and brown (*********Will the brown PA go well with khakis/Chinos, or would another allen edmond shoe work better*********)


Any suggestions on how to continue to build a wardrobe that doesn’t make me stand out in a negative way, but more as a conservative and he dresses nice kind of way?

You will find whatever you wear someone wont like it, and especially in NYC conservative may even work against you. do what you feel is best.

There's also something to be said for being flamboyant I can think of my top spenders that are usually also fairly flamboyant dressers and they are all very successful. The frightened timid dressers never seem to have any power. Maybe standing out got them noticed or its a confidence thing? A lot of the junior bankers say they couldn't wear flashy clothes until they get the top jobs but I really don't think these people would make partner and then start wearing beautiful and stylish clothes anyway.

Dressing will get you noticed though, so you just have to be very good at what your doing, you have to back it up.
post #9 of 53

...curious to know why new job always = upgrade your wardrobe? Why doesn't new job = pay off your debt more quickly or new job = put together a savings account? That's about as common a conclusion here as "odd-sized" body = bespoke is the only option

post #10 of 53
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...curious to know why new job always = upgrade your wardrobe? Why doesn't new job = pay off your debt more quickly or new job = put together a savings account? That's about as common a conclusion here as "odd-sized" body = bespoke is the only option

Probably because this is style forum.
post #11 of 53
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Probably because this is style forum.

...could be....could have something to do with idiocy too, but the world may never know...care to chime in OP?

post #12 of 53
i want to know why you are reaading that awful John Malloy book
post #13 of 53
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i want to know why you are reaading that awful John Malloy book


It has its funny parts, though it's not the equal of Egon Von Furstenburg's laugh-a-minute "The Bold Look" (Alternate title: "Suede Windbreakers for Everybody!").

 

My dad handed a book in this vein down to me. He had been given it in the '80s, anonymously, with the section on selecting a conservative haircut highlighted -- somebody didn't like his ponytail.

post #14 of 53
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Originally Posted by VinnyMac View Post

...curious to know why new job always = upgrade your wardrobe? Why doesn't new job = pay off your debt more quickly or new job = put together a savings account? That's about as common a conclusion here as "odd-sized" body = bespoke is the only option

Because people can switch from a casual to a formal environment, or vice versa. Not every job has the same requirements. It shouldn't be the first thing you think about when you get a new job, but there's nothing wrong with making sure you're adequately dressed for the new office environment.

post #15 of 53
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Originally Posted by VinnyMac View Post

...could be....could have something to do with idiocy too, but the world may never know...care to chime in OP?

Fair points, my thought process is moving into a manager role and thinking I have to dress as example instead of my old wardrobe at the prior company. Also since no longer working close to home, looking for versatile clothing that will be conservative business and able to take off the tie and change my shoes and be ready to go out for drinks afterwards in Manhattan.
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