I really need some advice on a fitness plan. I hope you don't mind some stupid questions but I am a complete newbie at fitness and health. I have been scouring a variety of sites (as well as extensive searching here) but am overloaded with conflicting information. Basically, I am looking to get into better shape. I have no desire to be all buff and marbled; I would basically like to lose some weight and tone up somewhat. My main goal is to improve my overall health. Here are some stats: Age: 40 Height 6 ft (183cm) Weight: 179 lbs (81kg) BMI: 24 I have never in my life played any sports or given any interest to health. I smoked heavily for 20 years and just stopped around 5 months ago (hence the recent weight gain). I drink every day- at least a beer or glass of wine or whisky. I seldom eat fast foods but do eat rich and heavy foods a lot (cheese, butter, mayo, fatty meats, etc.). Around a month ago I started jogging a few days a week...and I am really enjoying it. I feel better and it really energizes me for the day. I would like to continue on this trend. Based on what I have read I plan to do some sort of aerobic exercise 2 or 3 mornings a week (jogging, stairs, rope-skipping) and some stretching/ bodyweight training for 2 days a week. After I get a little more limber and capable, I would like to start doing some weights. Some questions: Does this plan sound good? Should I consider doing "Protein shakes" or other supplementation? Should I really just change my eating and drinking habits? Is this a really long and annoying post? Yes, it is...sorry. But your insights would be really appreciated. Thanks, Eric
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Fitness advice for 40 y.o.
post #2 of 15
5/3/07 at 10:28am
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I really need some advice on a fitness plan.
I hope you don't mind some stupid questions but I am a complete newbie at fitness and health. I have been scouring a variety of sites (as well as extensive searching here) but am overloaded with conflicting information.
Basically, I am looking to get into better shape. I have no desire to be all buff and marbled; I would basically like to lose some weight and tone up somewhat. My main goal is to improve my overall health.
Here are some stats:
Age: 40
Height 6 ft (183cm)
Weight: 179 lbs (81kg)
BMI: 24
I have never in my life played any sports or given any interest to health. I smoked heavily for 20 years and just stopped around 5 months ago (hence the recent weight gain). I drink every day- at least a beer or glass of wine or whisky. I seldom eat fast foods but do eat rich and heavy foods a lot (cheese, butter, mayo, fatty meats, etc.).
Around a month ago I started jogging a few days a week...and I am really enjoying it. I feel better and it really energizes me for the day. I would like to continue on this trend.
Based on what I have read I plan to do some sort of aerobic exercise 2 or 3 mornings a week (jogging, stairs, rope-skipping) and some stretching/ bodyweight training for 2 days a week. After I get a little more limber and capable, I would like to start doing some weights.
Some questions:
Does this plan sound good?
Should I consider doing "Protein shakes" or other supplementation?
Should I really just change my eating and drinking habits?
Is this a really long and annoying post? Yes, it is...sorry. But your insights would be really appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric
I hope you don't mind some stupid questions but I am a complete newbie at fitness and health. I have been scouring a variety of sites (as well as extensive searching here) but am overloaded with conflicting information.
Basically, I am looking to get into better shape. I have no desire to be all buff and marbled; I would basically like to lose some weight and tone up somewhat. My main goal is to improve my overall health.
Here are some stats:
Age: 40
Height 6 ft (183cm)
Weight: 179 lbs (81kg)
BMI: 24
I have never in my life played any sports or given any interest to health. I smoked heavily for 20 years and just stopped around 5 months ago (hence the recent weight gain). I drink every day- at least a beer or glass of wine or whisky. I seldom eat fast foods but do eat rich and heavy foods a lot (cheese, butter, mayo, fatty meats, etc.).
Around a month ago I started jogging a few days a week...and I am really enjoying it. I feel better and it really energizes me for the day. I would like to continue on this trend.
Based on what I have read I plan to do some sort of aerobic exercise 2 or 3 mornings a week (jogging, stairs, rope-skipping) and some stretching/ bodyweight training for 2 days a week. After I get a little more limber and capable, I would like to start doing some weights.
Some questions:
Does this plan sound good?
Should I consider doing "Protein shakes" or other supplementation?
Should I really just change my eating and drinking habits?
Is this a really long and annoying post? Yes, it is...sorry. But your insights would be really appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric
If your just interested in health and losing a bit of weight you might want to do 3-4 days of aerobic exercise. You probably don't need protein shakes, especially if your not bulking. You might want to take a multivitamin and possibly fish oil for the health benefits. Your probably going to want to make some changes in your eating and drinking habits in addition to the activity changes.
post #3 of 15
5/3/07 at 10:47am
post #4 of 15
5/3/07 at 12:15pm
Quote:
IYou probably don't need protein shakes, especially if your not bulking.
You may not need protein shakes, but they can be handy meal replacements. For me, I just don't like to eat breakfast early in the morning even though I know I need to. I find that a protein shake made with yogurt (and some occasional fruit) to be the perfect breakfast for me.
Given your level of activity, you don't want to supplement with protein shakes. Drinking one instead of eating a high-fat meal; well that's another story.
I also agree with Gradstudent78 in that you should consider a multivitamin.
post #5 of 15
5/3/07 at 12:36pm
Quote:
I really need some advice on a fitness plan. I hope you don't mind some stupid questions but I am a complete newbie at fitness and health. I have been scouring a variety of sites (as well as extensive searching here) but am overloaded with conflicting information. Basically, I am looking to get into better shape. I have no desire to be all buff and marbled; I would basically like to lose some weight and tone up somewhat. My main goal is to improve my overall health. Here are some stats: Age: 40 Height 6 ft (183cm) Weight: 179 lbs (81kg) BMI: 24 I have never in my life played any sports or given any interest to health. I smoked heavily for 20 years and just stopped around 5 months ago (hence the recent weight gain). I drink every day- at least a beer or glass of wine or whisky. I seldom eat fast foods but do eat rich and heavy foods a lot (cheese, butter, mayo, fatty meats, etc.). Around a month ago I started jogging a few days a week...and I am really enjoying it. I feel better and it really energizes me for the day. I would like to continue on this trend. Based on what I have read I plan to do some sort of aerobic exercise 2 or 3 mornings a week (jogging, stairs, rope-skipping) and some stretching/ bodyweight training for 2 days a week. After I get a little more limber and capable, I would like to start doing some weights. Some questions: Does this plan sound good? Should I consider doing "Protein shakes" or other supplementation? Should I really just change my eating and drinking habits? Is this a really long and annoying post? Yes, it is...sorry. But your insights would be really appreciated. Thanks, Eric
i once saw a 100 year old man on television and they asked him what his secret was to a long life. he said, "a beer a day." slightly off-topic, but i'm curious why you never participated in any sports. i hate to exercise, but i enjoy several sports and they've been a godsend to me because i'm able to stay in decent shape without doing what i consider to be exercise. if you do something for the fun of it rather than for the health benefits, you'll likely stick with it.Quote:
my advice to you is that you're too old. i suggest you lose about 15 years. 
i once saw a 100 year old man on television and they asked him what his secret was to a long life. he said, "a beer a day."
slightly off-topic, but i'm curious why you never participated in any sports. i hate to exercise, but i enjoy several sports and they've been a godsend to me because i'm able to stay in decent shape without doing what i consider to be exercise. if you do something for the fun of it rather than for the health benefits, you'll likely stick with it.

i once saw a 100 year old man on television and they asked him what his secret was to a long life. he said, "a beer a day."
slightly off-topic, but i'm curious why you never participated in any sports. i hate to exercise, but i enjoy several sports and they've been a godsend to me because i'm able to stay in decent shape without doing what i consider to be exercise. if you do something for the fun of it rather than for the health benefits, you'll likely stick with it.
Ahhh, to be 25 again!
It's a good question about why I never did sports. Basically, I just wasn't very good at any sports as a kid. By the time I was 16 I had found drugs, music and girls and that kept me busy until I was 30
In truth, I have always been fairly active...in an urban slacker kind of way. I have never had a driver's license so bicycling or walking were my main modes of transportation, I played drums 3 or 4 nights a week for years, and you burn a lot of calories playing pool in dark smoky bars. But it is strange that I am Canadian but can't ski or skate!
post #7 of 15
5/3/07 at 2:25pm
I'm sure you're fine in the health department, but IMHO, very first thing is to get a medical evaluation just as a precautionary measure to know where you stand.
Other than that your plan seems fine to me. As a rule of thumb, I think it's a good idea to begin the exercises and a change in diet, gradually. This prevents people from burning out, and allows you to make changes in lifestyle that you can probably stick to in the long term. Another important thing is to keep a log of your exercises as a way to control and measure your performance/ gains.
Other than that your plan seems fine to me. As a rule of thumb, I think it's a good idea to begin the exercises and a change in diet, gradually. This prevents people from burning out, and allows you to make changes in lifestyle that you can probably stick to in the long term. Another important thing is to keep a log of your exercises as a way to control and measure your performance/ gains.
post #8 of 15
5/4/07 at 2:50am
post #9 of 15
5/4/07 at 3:25am
Quote:
As someone of your age, I would advise you to be kind to your tendons and joints.
Stretch.
Also, check out lower impact aerobic exercise -- biking, swimming, etc. These are things you can do your whole life long.
Stretch.
Also, check out lower impact aerobic exercise -- biking, swimming, etc. These are things you can do your whole life long.
Quote:
if you do something for the fun of it rather than for the health benefits, you'll likely stick with it.
Quote:
Eat more but smaller meals to avoid a full feeling.
Drink lots of water, all day long.
Drink lots of water, all day long.
^^^ What they said. I might add that you're more likely to be injured cold-stretching and you should always warm up a little before stretching..and don't "over-stretch". Nothing will keep you feeling young like regular exercise. Stay away from processed foods. Make sure you get enough vitamins, minerals (especially calcium) and anti-oxidants.
If you want to go all out, I would suggest a regular (at least bi-weekly) regiment of therapeutic massage and/or chiropracty. Rolfing will take 5-10 years off of your age.
And most of all, be happy and reduce stress. A little Blue Sapphire with some Northern Lights or Blueberries thrown into the mix can help with that. There's nothing wrong with beer, wine or whiskey though.
40 is the new 25!
post #10 of 15
5/4/07 at 3:57pm
It is always a pleasure to give a young guy some advise (I have eleven years on you). Some general thoughts:
1. Absolutely no need for protein shakes or other supplements if you have a healthy diet. I myself try to do a diet high on lean proteins, fiber, green veggies, fruit, and healthy fats (e.g. olive oil, fish oil, etc). If you become far more active, then maybe;
2. As we age, resistance training is very valuable. You could start weight lifting 2-3 days per week with a full body circuit. I suggest getting to a gym and a very good trainer who has been trained to work with the older, more sedentary folk. After starting with machines and assisted weights, you will find you move to free weights and begin isolating body parts. If a gym is not available, you can use home weights, but have a spotter;
3. Stretching is crucial (always stretch warm). But so is recovery, as we age, we need more time between work-outs. So, avoid intense cardio on back to back days. Avoid weights on back to back days. Back to stretching, consider signing up for yoga;
4. Irrespective of your choice of cardio (running, biking, swimming), plug in interval training for one of those days. In interval training, one alternates several short burst of highest intensity cardio with recovery pace work. (E.G. run for one minute at 85% of aerobic capacity and then 3 minutes at a moderate jog and repeat 4-8 times. As your proficiency increases, you will be able to increase the length of the intervals, shorten the rest periods, or add repetitions.
5. Have a FULL physical exam - - one does not want to be surprised by middle-age coronary problems. A stress test is a bare minimum screen.
6. If your joints can take it, consider joining a running club or bking club. They provide structure and companionship. Both are very, very helpful for a successful program.
7. Keep a journal -- your own progress will amaze and, hopefully, provide inspiration for staying with it. Also, consider before and after photos.
1. Absolutely no need for protein shakes or other supplements if you have a healthy diet. I myself try to do a diet high on lean proteins, fiber, green veggies, fruit, and healthy fats (e.g. olive oil, fish oil, etc). If you become far more active, then maybe;
2. As we age, resistance training is very valuable. You could start weight lifting 2-3 days per week with a full body circuit. I suggest getting to a gym and a very good trainer who has been trained to work with the older, more sedentary folk. After starting with machines and assisted weights, you will find you move to free weights and begin isolating body parts. If a gym is not available, you can use home weights, but have a spotter;
3. Stretching is crucial (always stretch warm). But so is recovery, as we age, we need more time between work-outs. So, avoid intense cardio on back to back days. Avoid weights on back to back days. Back to stretching, consider signing up for yoga;
4. Irrespective of your choice of cardio (running, biking, swimming), plug in interval training for one of those days. In interval training, one alternates several short burst of highest intensity cardio with recovery pace work. (E.G. run for one minute at 85% of aerobic capacity and then 3 minutes at a moderate jog and repeat 4-8 times. As your proficiency increases, you will be able to increase the length of the intervals, shorten the rest periods, or add repetitions.
5. Have a FULL physical exam - - one does not want to be surprised by middle-age coronary problems. A stress test is a bare minimum screen.
6. If your joints can take it, consider joining a running club or bking club. They provide structure and companionship. Both are very, very helpful for a successful program.
7. Keep a journal -- your own progress will amaze and, hopefully, provide inspiration for staying with it. Also, consider before and after photos.
post #11 of 15
5/4/07 at 5:09pm
even a light amount of resistence training with light weights will be vastly more effective than cardio alone for the simple fact that challenging your muscles will burn more fat than cardio alone (or so everything i've read and learned all these years tells me) and also help build some muscle
you don't need to get into heavy lifting but any weight to challenge your muscles will benefit you in the long run coupled with cardio and an overhaul of your diet
you don't need to get into heavy lifting but any weight to challenge your muscles will benefit you in the long run coupled with cardio and an overhaul of your diet
post #12 of 15
5/5/07 at 12:20am
I'm fifty-one. Never had a weight problem, but by 40 or so, my shape had begun to spread into wrong directions. Have done cardio kickboxing and moderate weight lifting, for about ten years. The best thing I ever did.
Agree about the physical examination. If you're in good health, exercise could help to maintain it. Not just that, you'll have more energy, sleep better, and your skin will glow. You'll look better in and out of your clothes, too. About the water: I like Propel fitness beverages, during and after exercise.
Agree about the physical examination. If you're in good health, exercise could help to maintain it. Not just that, you'll have more energy, sleep better, and your skin will glow. You'll look better in and out of your clothes, too. About the water: I like Propel fitness beverages, during and after exercise.
Thanks to all for some great advice!
Luckily, my overall health is good. I get a fairly extensive physical check-up every year.
Yes, it actually feels that way. And good advice about the massage. I think I may try that!
Thanks, Grandpa! A lot of great advice here...much appreciated. I actually took some "before" pictures today. Yikes! But it is very good to keep my motivation up.
Quote:
I'm sure you're fine in the health department, but IMHO, very first thing is to get a medical evaluation just as a precautionary measure to know where you stand.
Yes, it actually feels that way. And good advice about the massage. I think I may try that!
Quote:
It is always a pleasure to give a young guy some advise (I have eleven years on you). Some general thoughts:
1. Absolutely no need for protein shakes or other supplements if you have a healthy diet. I myself try to do a diet high on lean proteins, fiber, green veggies, fruit, and healthy fats (e.g. olive oil, fish oil, etc). If you become far more active, then maybe;
2. As we age, resistance training is very valuable. You could start weight lifting 2-3 days per week with a full body circuit. I suggest getting to a gym and a very good trainer who has been trained to work with the older, more sedentary folk. After starting with machines and assisted weights, you will find you move to free weights and begin isolating body parts. If a gym is not available, you can use home weights, but have a spotter;
3. Stretching is crucial (always stretch warm). But so is recovery, as we age, we need more time between work-outs. So, avoid intense cardio on back to back days. Avoid weights on back to back days. Back to stretching, consider signing up for yoga;
4. Irrespective of your choice of cardio (running, biking, swimming), plug in interval training for one of those days. In interval training, one alternates several short burst of highest intensity cardio with recovery pace work. (E.G. run for one minute at 85% of aerobic capacity and then 3 minutes at a moderate jog and repeat 4-8 times. As your proficiency increases, you will be able to increase the length of the intervals, shorten the rest periods, or add repetitions.
5. Have a FULL physical exam - - one does not want to be surprised by middle-age coronary problems. A stress test is a bare minimum screen.
6. If your joints can take it, consider joining a running club or bking club. They provide structure and companionship. Both are very, very helpful for a successful program.
7. Keep a journal -- your own progress will amaze and, hopefully, provide inspiration for staying with it. Also, consider before and after photos.
1. Absolutely no need for protein shakes or other supplements if you have a healthy diet. I myself try to do a diet high on lean proteins, fiber, green veggies, fruit, and healthy fats (e.g. olive oil, fish oil, etc). If you become far more active, then maybe;
2. As we age, resistance training is very valuable. You could start weight lifting 2-3 days per week with a full body circuit. I suggest getting to a gym and a very good trainer who has been trained to work with the older, more sedentary folk. After starting with machines and assisted weights, you will find you move to free weights and begin isolating body parts. If a gym is not available, you can use home weights, but have a spotter;
3. Stretching is crucial (always stretch warm). But so is recovery, as we age, we need more time between work-outs. So, avoid intense cardio on back to back days. Avoid weights on back to back days. Back to stretching, consider signing up for yoga;
4. Irrespective of your choice of cardio (running, biking, swimming), plug in interval training for one of those days. In interval training, one alternates several short burst of highest intensity cardio with recovery pace work. (E.G. run for one minute at 85% of aerobic capacity and then 3 minutes at a moderate jog and repeat 4-8 times. As your proficiency increases, you will be able to increase the length of the intervals, shorten the rest periods, or add repetitions.
5. Have a FULL physical exam - - one does not want to be surprised by middle-age coronary problems. A stress test is a bare minimum screen.
6. If your joints can take it, consider joining a running club or bking club. They provide structure and companionship. Both are very, very helpful for a successful program.
7. Keep a journal -- your own progress will amaze and, hopefully, provide inspiration for staying with it. Also, consider before and after photos.
Thanks, Grandpa! A lot of great advice here...much appreciated. I actually took some "before" pictures today. Yikes! But it is very good to keep my motivation up.
post #14 of 15
5/7/07 at 9:15pm
Quote:
I really need some advice on a fitness plan.
I hope you don't mind some stupid questions but I am a complete newbie at fitness and health. I have been scouring a variety of sites (as well as extensive searching here) but am overloaded with conflicting information.
Basically, I am looking to get into better shape. I have no desire to be all buff and marbled; I would basically like to lose some weight and tone up somewhat. My main goal is to improve my overall health.
Here are some stats:
Age: 40
Height 6 ft (183cm)
Weight: 179 lbs (81kg)
BMI: 24
I have never in my life played any sports or given any interest to health. I smoked heavily for 20 years and just stopped around 5 months ago (hence the recent weight gain). I drink every day- at least a beer or glass of wine or whisky. I seldom eat fast foods but do eat rich and heavy foods a lot (cheese, butter, mayo, fatty meats, etc.).
Around a month ago I started jogging a few days a week...and I am really enjoying it. I feel better and it really energizes me for the day. I would like to continue on this trend.
Based on what I have read I plan to do some sort of aerobic exercise 2 or 3 mornings a week (jogging, stairs, rope-skipping) and some stretching/ bodyweight training for 2 days a week. After I get a little more limber and capable, I would like to start doing some weights.
Some questions:
Does this plan sound good?
Should I consider doing "Protein shakes" or other supplementation?
Should I really just change my eating and drinking habits?
Is this a really long and annoying post? Yes, it is...sorry. But your insights would be really appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric
I hope you don't mind some stupid questions but I am a complete newbie at fitness and health. I have been scouring a variety of sites (as well as extensive searching here) but am overloaded with conflicting information.
Basically, I am looking to get into better shape. I have no desire to be all buff and marbled; I would basically like to lose some weight and tone up somewhat. My main goal is to improve my overall health.
Here are some stats:
Age: 40
Height 6 ft (183cm)
Weight: 179 lbs (81kg)
BMI: 24
I have never in my life played any sports or given any interest to health. I smoked heavily for 20 years and just stopped around 5 months ago (hence the recent weight gain). I drink every day- at least a beer or glass of wine or whisky. I seldom eat fast foods but do eat rich and heavy foods a lot (cheese, butter, mayo, fatty meats, etc.).
Around a month ago I started jogging a few days a week...and I am really enjoying it. I feel better and it really energizes me for the day. I would like to continue on this trend.
Based on what I have read I plan to do some sort of aerobic exercise 2 or 3 mornings a week (jogging, stairs, rope-skipping) and some stretching/ bodyweight training for 2 days a week. After I get a little more limber and capable, I would like to start doing some weights.
Some questions:
Does this plan sound good?
Should I consider doing "Protein shakes" or other supplementation?
Should I really just change my eating and drinking habits?
Is this a really long and annoying post? Yes, it is...sorry. But your insights would be really appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric
you don't need protien shakes. with a nice balanced diet, you'll have more than enough protien on a daily basis. the excess is waste so save your money.
if you want better results, I would cut back the alcohol consumption. first order, alcohol will dehydrate your body which definitely will affect your performance.
as for your general food consumption, i wouldn't do anything drastic. just make minor changes here and there. for example if you eat 3 slices of bread for dinner, try just having 2. instead of ordering the coke and fries, get fries with water.
if you want to lose weight it's all about creating a sustainable caloric deficit, so you'll either have to do more work or eat less. you can help this process by increasing your muscle mass since in doing so, you'll make your body more inefficient.
post #15 of 15
5/7/07 at 9:49pm
I agree with most of what has been said. But I just wanted to point out that at 6 feet and 179 pounds, losing a signficant amount weight shouldn't be a major concern. You're hardly obese. Doing cardiovascular exercise is great, and eating healthier is obviously a good thing. But I'm not sure most of the well-intentioned "eat smaller portions"-type advice is all that relevant. If you're gradually increasing your exercise level you're probably just fine maintaining roughly your present caloric intake. Obviously, if you can cut out refined foods, etc. and choose healthier substitutes, but more the better. I think as you work in muscular training -- try even just adding some push-ups and sit-ups after your runs -- you'll see some real changes in tone and body shape. Trading some fat for muscle and generally toning up will, I suspect, give you much of what you're really looking for when you talk about "losing weight".
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