or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › SPRNG SMMR 2K14 FSHN
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

SPRNG SMMR 2K14 FSHN - Page 10

post #136 of 192
I don't really enjoy or frequently read online commentary about runway shows outside of SF, but I've been doing a little bit of that today. The alternating fetishization / demonization of thinness that pervades discussion of SLP ( and I guess Hedi's photography and DH by extension) is really fucked up and off-putting.
post #137 of 192
Why is it fucked up? I don't see how you could avoid the topic of thinness when looking at SLP. The show itself is a fetishization of thinness, from the choice of models to the proportions of the clothes, particularly the bottoms.

Just my opinion, but I thought the mix of looser looks and slim looks at Lanvin hit a nice balance, actually.
post #138 of 192

The dropped lapel notches of the last page (Lanvin, Lemaire, Miharayasuhiro, cdgh) make baby jeebus cry.

post #139 of 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

Why is it fucked up? I don't see how you could avoid the topic of thinness when looking at SLP. The show itself is a fetishization of thinness, from the choice of models to the proportions of the clothes, particularly the bottoms.

This is part of what I mean. Menswear shows pretty commonly feature people with unusual proportions, but it's never a topic of discussion when they're of the tall/muscular type. Maybe because that's closer to the masculine ideal, I dunno. What I think is weird is that, as far as I've seen, criticisms focus on the models themselves (they're ugly, malnourished, anorexic, whatever), while defenses focus on Hedi (it's part of his vision). I don't think it's constructive in any way to criticize the models themselves, and using "artistic vision" as a justification for glorifying an unhealthy ideal is just as bad.

Edit: to be clear, I mean criticism / defense of the models, not the collection in general.
post #140 of 192
Who is Miharayasuhiro's core clientele? As referenced, it's really really expensive and not particularly well known.
post #141 of 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by A Fellow Linguist View Post

This is part of what I mean. Menswear shows pretty commonly feature people with unusual proportions, but it's never a topic of discussion when they're of the tall/muscular type. Maybe because that's closer to the masculine ideal, I dunno. What I think is weird is that, as far as I've seen, criticisms focus on the models themselves (they're ugly, malnourished, anorexic, whatever), while defenses focus on Hedi (it's part of his vision). I don't think it's constructive in any way to criticize the models themselves, and using "artistic vision" as a justification for glorifying an unhealthy ideal is just as bad.

Edit: to be clear, I mean criticism / defense of the models, not the collection in general.

There's not much to discuss when they're of the tall/muscular type (well, most high fashion models aren't really that muscular, unless they're like the D&G models or something), because that's the status quo. And yeah, they're chosen because they're close to a masculine ideal (notice I said "a" masculine ideal and not "the" masculine ideal). Hedi's models get discussed because they're decidedly not the status quo, and they vary from it in that they look significantly skinnier. I imagine if someone sent a whole bunch of models down the runway who looked like they were on steroids people would talk about that too.
post #142 of 192
I don't disagree- I think it's totally reasonable that the casting is being discussed. It's the nature of the conversation that's bothering me.
post #143 of 192
Thread Starter 
I still don't see how any SLPSS14 casting talk could not be about what you're lamenting.


Quote:
Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

Just my opinion, but I thought the mix of looser looks and slim looks at Lanvin hit a nice balance, actually.

this looks terrible
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
post #144 of 192
I think when discussing the SLP show, people who are discussing the "thinness" aren't really discussing that. There's nothing all that disturbing about thin men. What is disturbing is this type of clearly adolescent body shape being sexed up, covered in leather and make-up, and being sent down the runway in an ostensibly adult industry. These models are very clearly children, which is what makes the imagery so disturbing.
post #145 of 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by sipang View Post

this looks terrible
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

yeah, i agree on that one. in fact, I think that's the worst look from the whole show, though for more reasons than just the slimness. design is just plain boring, color is no good, and at least in pics the fabric looks bad, like cheap H&M cotton. in fact, I think it looks like an H&M suit.

but I did like these. the slim pants work for me here, and I like the mix of slim pants and oversized top (obviously they're not the only ones doing that, but I like it generally). the look with the pink jacket is fairly slim across the board but it didn't feel out of place to me. i actually really liked the colors on that one too.


post #146 of 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeemon View Post

i would buy hermes and LV clothes if was really baller, i wonder why nobody here buys that stuff

I never tried LV clothing or much cared for it, I have some Hermès pieces but they're accessories, cuts are too large for me to wear that stuff, it's really made for a 55 y/o with a paunch. Women's pieces are sometimes dope.
post #147 of 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

I think when discussing the SLP show, people who are discussing the "thinness" aren't really discussing that. There's nothing all that disturbing about thin men. What is disturbing is this type of clearly adolescent body shape being sexed up, covered in leather and make-up, and being sent down the runway in an ostensibly adult industry. These models are very clearly children, which is what makes the imagery so disturbing.

I'd agree that the "thinness" of the SLP models isn't an issue.  It actually qualifies all the times I was told to suck it in... but, they've been sexing up Lolita-esque female models for years, so why should their male counterparts be "disturbing"? If a brand wants to exude "young and sexy," they'll cast and style accordingly. I'm not saying that I liked the casting or clothes, but the show was in keeping with Hedi's "vision".

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post


I never tried LV clothing or much cared for it, I have some Hermès pieces but they're accessories, cuts are too large for me to wear that stuff, it's really made for a 55 y/o with a paunch. Women's pieces are sometimes dope.

For the most part, I'd agree, though I think Kim Jones could make LV a relevant SW&D brand.

 

While not most people's style, my favorite piece in my closet is LV:

$T2eC16h,!yUE9s6NGYqzBRsgpWfUWg~~60_57.JPG

post #148 of 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by futuresailors View Post

 

While not most people's style, my favorite piece in my closet is LV:

 

Ah yes, the classic tin foil overcoat. 

post #149 of 192

tin-foil-hat.jpg

post #150 of 192
Re: Miharayasuhiro, as with most Japanese brands the pricing within Japan is much more reasonable than abroad. I would imagine a large portion of their clientele is Japanese.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Streetwear and Denim
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › SPRNG SMMR 2K14 FSHN