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post #2221 of 2411
I commissioned myself to build myself a bookcase, I use it to store books, alcohol and tobacco. Also, the occasional rare and desirable object. My bookcases are hung on the wall.

And I just used it as a Segway to talk about myself, hope you guys enjoyed.
Edited by SkinnyGoomba - 10/23/13 at 5:28am
post #2222 of 2411
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I've had enough of this. If you don't call out SH on his advice to keep books on the floor as anything other than pure idiocy desperately attempting to appear enlightened and high-brow, you're with the terrorists.

Built-ins are not options for people who live in small spaces, are on a budget, or rent. Storing books in a closet presumes one isn't already storing other things in said closet and that one doesn't regularly read his books. Yet neither of those suggestions is remotely as stupid as suggesting that one simplty leave books on the floor--particularly versus the option of using a standalone bookshelf. If a bookshelf is an obstruction to whatever bullshit "honest' lifestyle SH is hawking, a giant pile of books is surely an even worse offender.

He's entirely right, either have some built-in bookshelves, piles or stuff that looks like piles (those annoying Sapien bookshelves I use in addition to the floor and the top of some tables, commodes etc. are fine). There are a few configurations of really great bookshelves+space that are possible, more often than not it is a fail (99.99% of the time).

Chances are I have more books than the people posting here talking about their stupid bookshelves and the need to use 500 books everyday. Hell most days I pick 1 that is already on the floor near a chair I like to read in and maybe something in the magazine pile.

SH insight might not hold up all the time and you will find inconsistencies in his judgment but he's generally right and, from an operational point of view, it would be a good idea to follow his main insight: you have too much shit in your home, it is contrived and ugly, you need to remove things not add them. Look at your interior and find things to get rid off.
Edited by Fuuma - 10/23/13 at 5:28am
post #2223 of 2411
Stephens philosophy is generally a good one, and his approach to making suggestions is jarring enough that it will make you think about the suggestion. The overall message seems to be the use of restraint in interiors, I appreciate that. How many contrived interiors created by 'interior desecrators' ( thanks Matt) do you need to see before you say 'fuck this, I want something real'.
Edited by SkinnyGoomba - 10/23/13 at 6:02am
post #2224 of 2411
Yes, but leaving stacks of books on the floor is the height of contrivance IMO. You have lots of books, you need somewhere practical to store them. Hence, bookshelves. I cannot for the life of me understand how that is "dishonest" or whatever.
post #2225 of 2411
Faux floor stacking as honest living.

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post #2226 of 2411
SH is just being a pretentious contrarian arsehole here.

I use lots of my books for reference purposes on a daily basis, so they need to be organized according some sort of logic. For example, I have an avocational interest in the history of ideas as well as world literature and comparative literature, so I arrange most of my books chronologically.

I also share my books with other people in my household, and it's obviously useful and saves time to have a predefined system that dictates where anyone can find whichever type of book they want.

If you stack books on the floor, you have no option but to arrange them by size, which is a fucking absurd and useless way to organize books. It's also a pain in the arse to access books from a stack. I dip into all sorts of books to remind myself a things -- I also annotate my books quite a lot and like to refer to the notes occasionally.

It's also pretty dirty to keep books on the floor.

I fail to see how it makes one's life simpler to put all your shit on the floor rather than make use of storage utilities. There's fallacious logic to that notion. Less is not always more, sometimes it is quite plainly just less.
post #2227 of 2411
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Originally Posted by Loathing View Post

SH is just being a pretentious contrarian arsehole here.

I use lots of my books for reference purposes on a daily basis, so they need to be organized according some sort of logic. For example, I have an avocational interest in the history of ideas as well as world literature and comparative literature, so I arrange most of my books chronologically.

I also share my books with other people in my household, and it's obviously useful and saves time to have a predefined system that dictates where anyone can find whichever type of book they want.

If you stack books on the floor, you have no option but to arrange them by size, which is a fucking absurd and useless way to organize books. It's also a pain in the arse to access books from a stack. I dip into all sorts of books to remind myself a things -- I also annotate my books quite a lot and like to refer to the notes occasionally.

It's also pretty dirty to keep books on the floor.

I fail to see how it makes one's life simpler to put all your shit on the floor rather than make use of storage utilities. There's fallacious logic to that notion. Less is not always more, sometimes it is quite plainly just less.

It looks better and isn't really annoying, I have some stacks on the floor and it is not a problem. I also have a couple of Sapien, a built-in bookcase and some books stacked on commodes or coffee tables. I don't like bullshit furniture everywhere and while books on the floor may gather dust, bookshelves gather stupid novelty items as time goes by.
post #2228 of 2411
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

He's entirely right, either have some built-in bookshelves, piles or stuff that looks like piles (those annoying Sapien bookshelves I use in addition to the floor and the top of some tables, commodes etc. are fine). There are a few configurations of really great bookshelves+space that are possible, more often than not it is a fail (99.99% of the time).

Chances are I have more books than the people posting here talking about their stupid bookshelves and the need to use 500 books everyday. Hell most days I pick 1 that is already on the floor near a chair I like to read in and maybe something in the magazine pile.

SH insight might not hold up all the time and you will find inconsistencies in his judgment but he's generally right and, from an operational point of view, it would be a good idea to follow his main insight: you have too much shit in your home, it is contrived and ugly, you need to remove things not add them. Look at your interior and find things to get rid off.

Some people love books. Some of those people cannot install built-ins (for any number of reasons). For such people, piling books on the floor is not a practical solution. That is why SH is far from entirely right.
post #2229 of 2411
Not sure why you are taking this so personally Foo. I spent four months recently building wall hung bookcases and the opinion does not offend me. The cases work for me, they hold up among many things a collection of rare books that my wife has been collecting for most of her adult life. There is no chance in hell that they are going on the floor in a book pile.

That being said, most of my architecture, art, carpentry, finance and even some of my classics could be on the floor without issue. I reference to many of them regularly, when I had them on the floor I still referenced to them.
post #2230 of 2411
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Some people love books. Some of those people cannot install built-ins (for any number of reasons). For such people, piling books on the floor is not a practical solution. That is why SH is far from entirely right.

http://www.dwr.com/product/sapien-bookcase-short.do?sortby=ourPicks
There are ways to have nice bookcases integrated in a dwelling, it is usually not the case, especially with small appts.
post #2231 of 2411
I love your apartment (from the one picture i saw) but those things suck. I want to go all 'do-hit' on them.
post #2232 of 2411
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

I love your apartment (from the one picture i saw) but those things suck. I want to go all 'do-hit' on them.

You don't see them if you fill them with books, they just look like book piles, half-filled they do indeed suck, you have to hide the structure completely.
post #2233 of 2411
Show me photos of your stand-alone bookshelves so I can ridicule them.
post #2234 of 2411
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Originally Posted by Loathing View Post

SH is just being a pretentious contrarian arsehole here.

I use lots of my books for reference purposes on a daily basis, so they need to be organized according some sort of logic. For example, I have an avocational interest in the history of ideas as well as world literature and comparative literature, so I arrange most of my books chronologically.

I also share my books with other people in my household, and it's obviously useful and saves time to have a predefined system that dictates where anyone can find whichever type of book they want.

If you stack books on the floor, you have no option but to arrange them by size, which is a fucking absurd and useless way to organize books. It's also a pain in the arse to access books from a stack. I dip into all sorts of books to remind myself a things -- I also annotate my books quite a lot and like to refer to the notes occasionally.

It's also pretty dirty to keep books on the floor.

I fail to see how it makes one's life simpler to put all your shit on the floor rather than make use of storage utilities. There's fallacious logic to that notion. Less is not always more, sometimes it is quite plainly just less.

I never discounted all bookshelves, just nearly all of them that people clutter up their ugly interiors with. You'd be best to go with built-ins.
post #2235 of 2411
I hate it when stupid people put their coffee beans in containers, when the kitchen floor is RIGHT THERE. But no, these idiots clutter up their kitchens with stupid tins, bags, and oxo's. IDIOTS.
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