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post #1321 of 2411
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

That is why you have to understand the limitations of digital photographs being viewed on different computers before making criticisms. In this case, the distinction you are trying to make is too fine. That is not to say no distinctions or other useful observations can ever be made.

For, literally, the fourth time, it was not a criticism. It was an observation that one picture of one table made it seem that it was a different style of marble than one picture of another table. That was the extent of it. No critique. No judgment. Just marble A looked like X, and marble B looked like Y ... to me. I have a modest amount of familiarity with marble, having had our kitchen counters made from it. I'm not an idiot and get that my computer shows everything perfectly. foo.gif
post #1322 of 2411
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post

Wut are you talking about. Your table and his table are made different ways, hence the reason yours broke. His marble is mounted on a plate of aluminum. Yours sits on a frame.

No, that is not why it broke.

The marble top of of the Saarinen table ships as a separate piece, not mounted on its base--just like the marble top of the Simplon table. Both slabs are supported by an aluminum base when assembled.

Strange that a skilled architect could not think through that.
post #1323 of 2411
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Originally Posted by zbromer View Post

For, literally, the fourth time, it was not a criticism. It was an observation that one picture of one table made it seem that it was a different style of marble than one picture of another table. That was the extent of it. No critique. No judgment. Just marble A looked like X, and marble B looked like Y ... to me. I have a modest amount of familiarity with marble, having had our kitchen counters made from it. I'm not an idiot and get that my computer shows everything perfectly. foo.gif

You are misreading me. I didn't say you made a criticism. I said that the validity of criticisms made in this forum depend on one's understanding of photographic limitations, in response to your point that conversation on this forum relies on digital photographs.

My point was that the same goes for distinctions such as the one you are attempting to make. All it takes is some warm incandescent lighting or differently calibrated white balance to turn a whte table into a yellow one.
Edited by mafoofan - 8/27/13 at 1:37pm
post #1324 of 2411
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

No, that is not why it broke.

The marble top of of the Saarinen table ships as a separate piece, not mounted on its base--just like the marble top of the Simplon table. Both slabs are supported by an aluminum base when assembled.

Strange that a skilled architect could not think through that.

I'm under the impression yours is supported on a frame, not a plate. The photo shows much more exposed underside than the Saarinen table, which has most of the slab resting on a solid cast plate of aluminum. If it's not supported on a plate, any pressure placed on a point with no direct support underneath it is going to force the marble to use tensile strength. In a sheet of marble that long, it takes very little pressure near the center to crack that mother fucker in half. If it broke in transport, there's no reason it'll suddenly stop being fragile as soon as it's in your living room. You're asking for it to break.

Regardless, you've gotten two broken coffee tables I'd have never bought for those and other reasons.
post #1325 of 2411
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post

I'm under the impression yours is supported on a frame, not a plate. If it's not supported on a plate (like the Saarinen table) any pressure placec on a point with no direct support underneath it is going to force the marble to use tensile strength. In a sheet of marble that long, it takes very little pressure near the center to crack that mother fucker in half. If it broke in transport, there's no reason it'll suddenly stop being fragile as soon as its in your living room. You're asking for it to break.

The aluminum base of the Simplon table is ribbed (you cannot see the ribs unless looking undernearth the table). There is less unsupported surface area in the Simplon than there is on the Sarinen, as the "plate" you refer to is only about a foot and a half wide. Our Saarinen table top is 42 inches across.

At any rate, that is all moot. Again, both marble table tops ship as single, unsupported pieces. If one is to break in shipment, it's got nothing to do with how it will be supported after assembly.
post #1326 of 2411
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

what i mean is, the vender is dealing with the shipping company and their insurance, not you.

I wish. To get to that point, the vendor has to admit there is a mistake, which they are less likely to do once you have the furniture in hand and they have your money.
post #1327 of 2411
you know, I have a marble table that was my great grandparents'. Passed to g-parents, then parents, around to various 2nd homes and finally to me. Been moved a million times. Still not cracked.
post #1328 of 2411
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

The aluminum base of the Simplon table is ribbed (you cannot see the ribs unless looking undernearth the table). There is less unsupported surface area in the Simplon than there is on the Sarinen, as the "plate" you refer to is only about a foot and a half wide. Our Saarinen table top is 42 inches across.

At any rate, that is all moot. Again, both marble table tops ship as single, unsupported pieces. If one is to break in shipment, it's got nothing to do with how it will be supported after assembly.

Would not buy.
post #1329 of 2411
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post

Would not buy.

WTF are you even responding to?
post #1330 of 2411
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

WTF are you even responding to?

Do not want.
post #1331 of 2411
*sigh*
post #1332 of 2411

SHero, why? Just why.

post #1333 of 2411
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

you know, I have a marble table that was my great grandparents'. Passed to g-parents, then parents, around to various 2nd homes and finally to me. Been moved a million times. Still not cracked.

Is it supported by a plate or by a frame?
post #1334 of 2411
we have a marble side table. Plate supported. Specifically, it's a slab of marble being supported by a table.
post #1335 of 2411
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Originally Posted by Ernie View Post

SHero, why? Just why.

Did you miss what happened? Foo bought a really long and really thin slab of the most fragile stone he could find, and he's decided it's a good idea to set it on top of a dinky frame with no permanent fixings nor adequate support on its weakest axis, and then he's decided to locate it in the area of his living room prone to the most accidental contact. It seems like somebody should be asking him why.
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