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post #2371 of 2386

Hello all, I'm in the hunt for the perfect shirt as so many else, right now I own mainly a few borrellis and Stenströms(Swedish brand similar to Eton).

 

I'm

34" waist,

40" chest 

almost 6'4" tall

36" sleeves preferably

15.75" neck

 

The problem for me is that I've fallen in love with the quality, fabric and collar of the Borrellis(they are soo amazing)

 

While the Stenströms is good, they fall short whe compared to Borrelli

 

Is there anything similar in quality out there for a real slim tall guy? 2 of the borrellis after a few washes are almost impossible to wear due to the short sleeves... It's so sad. Will I have to go MTM route with any top italian shirt maker to satisfy my needs?

 

Thanks,

Ossian

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I also have a few Stenstroems shirts (i think 5 or 6), all of which are "slimline"(the most slim fit line of stenstroems) and sized 39. I'm 5'11", with 37" chest, 29" waist and 33" sleeves. They fit me really well and I am quite satisfied with their quality. 

 

Ossian, I don't have any experience with quality Italian shirts, so I can't help. But in light of your case, I guess I'd better stay away from them lol...

 

BTW I dropped in a "Colli" store the other day in Munich. It's Austrian brand headquartered in Vienna. The cut is quite slim, and the quality is fine considering the listed price is 89 euro for most of their shirts. I took one, and am satisfied after few washes. I would say the quality is on par or a notch below that of stenstroems.

post #2373 of 2386
First-hand opinions on the comparative slimness of CT Extra Slim Fit vs. BB ESF? I see measurement charts assembled on 3rd party sites that would list the CTs in this comparison as slimmer, but wondering if anyone could speak more directly to the question. Which brand's ESF in a 16/35 will be slimmer?
post #2374 of 2386
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

First-hand opinions on the comparative slimness of CT Extra Slim Fit vs. BB ESF? I see measurement charts assembled on 3rd party sites that would list the CTs in this comparison as slimmer, but wondering if anyone could speak more directly to the question. Which brand's ESF in a 16/35 will be slimmer?
In a size 16, the CT ESF is slimmer than the BB. Below 16, I'm not sure if that is still true. They are close though, but if the BB is snug on you, I would probably skip the CT.
post #2375 of 2386
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In a size 16, the CT ESF is slimmer than the BB. Below 16, I'm not sure if that is still true. They are close though, but if the BB is snug on you, I would probably skip the CT.

I'll second msulinsli's opinion. The CT ESF is slimmer than BB.
post #2376 of 2386
Thank you both for confirming that. I appreciate it.
post #2377 of 2386
I've been searching for a good slim fit shirt that can also close around my neck, and so far i've had the best luck with the dress shirts from Peurist. I would say Banana Republic's tailored slim fit would be a close second (tied with Uniqlo). For reference, I'm 5'7 and a size 38 in the chest and my neck is around 15.75. So far Peurist's slim fit has worked the best. They also have a custom fit, which isn't as fit as the slim fit. The sizing description is also nicely detailed, so that's another plus. The only thing with Peurist is that the sizing may vary a little between shirts, so you really do have to read their descriptions. I think i'm going to stick to uniqlo for slim fit OCBD's until i find another retailer with a similar fit. I've heard good things about Lands End and their canvas line but I don't think it's as slim as uniqlo. I got some dress pants from the canvas line earlier in the year, and did like the quality of those, so the shirts should be just as good in theory.

edit: wow this was my first post since i've joined lol
post #2378 of 2386
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I've been searching for a good slim fit shirt that can also close around my neck, and so far i've had the best luck with the dress shirts from Peurist. I would say Banana Republic's tailored slim fit would be a close second (tied with Uniqlo). For reference, I'm 5'7 and a size 38 in the chest and my neck is around 15.75. So far Peurist's slim fit has worked the best. They also have a custom fit, which isn't as fit as the slim fit. The sizing description is also nicely detailed, so that's another plus. The only thing with Peurist is that the sizing may vary a little between shirts, so you really do have to read their descriptions. I think i'm going to stick to uniqlo for slim fit OCBD's until i find another retailer with a similar fit. I've heard good things about Lands End and their canvas line but I don't think it's as slim as uniqlo. I got some dress pants from the canvas line earlier in the year, and did like the quality of those, so the shirts should be just as good in theory.

edit: wow this was my first post since i've joined lol

Thanks for the shout out. In case it means anything to some folks, our current stock of shirts, other than those from Culturata, is made by Saitt, the same company that produces the Truzzi and Mastai Ferretti line of shirts. We import our shirts directly, and they are all made for the Italian/European markets, so the fit is generally slimmer than anything you will find here in the U.S.
post #2379 of 2386
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Having just visited many stores on the search for the perfect-fitted, affordable OTR shirt, I made the following ranking based on how slim the shirts are, in general (not taking specific measurements, etc.). For reference, I'm 5'8'', 145lb, ~10% BF (14'' neck, 33'' sleeve, 36-37'' chest, 29'' waist). The price ranges are what I expect to buy for, when they're on really good sale. Also, please be aware that everything is biased, based on my own experiences.

13. Lands End - S (Tailored Fit) [$15-30]: An entire size too big. Good quality for the price.
12. J. Crew - S [$30-45]: Pretty boxy; practically an entire size too big. Great quality.
11. Banana Republic - S (Regular) [$30-40]: Pretty boxy. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew's.
10. Express - S (Fitted) [$35-45]: Typical "slim-fit", but still too boxy for me. Horrible quality.
9. Old Navy - S (Slim) [$15-20]: Slightly slimmer than Express'. Horrible quality, but it's expected.
8. Club Monaco - S (Slim) [$30-40]: About the same as Old Navy's. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew.
7. J. Crew - XS [$30-45]: Slightly slimmer than Old Navy's, but still not slim enough for me. Great quality.
6. Banana Republic - S (Slim Fit) [$30-40]: Slightly slimmer than J. Crew's. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew's.
5. Brooks Brothers - S (Extra-Slim Fit) [$40-60]: Slightly slimmer than Banana Republic's; great fit. Amazing quality.
4. H&M - S (Slim) [$15-25]: Slightly slimmer than Brooks Brother's; ideal fit. Poor quality, but suitable to the cheap price.
3. Zara - S (Slim) [$40-50]: About the same as H&M; ideal fit. Pretty poor quality.
2. Express - S (Extra-Slim) [$35-45]: Slightly slimmer than Zara; a little too slim for my tastes. Horrible quality.
1. Club Monaco - XS (Slim) [$30-40]: Slightly slimmer or same as Express'; a little too slim for my tastes and collar is just a little too small. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew's.



Notes: I forgot to write down whether the J. Crew shirts I tried on were Regular or Slim-Fit (I think they were Slim, but I'm not entirely certain). I should also try on Banana Republic's XS Slim just to see how it compares to Club Monaco's XS Slim.

In conclusion, BB ESF and H&M Slim are my two favorites. H&M has my preferred fit, but the quality is nothing compared to BB's. In contrast, BB has amazing quality, but it's slightly too boxy compared to H&M's fit. However, this small difference in fit is pretty negligible compared to the huge difference in quality. Thus, I use BB for my main versatile shirts, whereas I have H&M shirts for back-ups, less-popular patterns, more extravagant colors, etc. Wardrobe-wise, I plan to keep ~5 BB ESF shirts and ~5-7 H&M shirts (if I weren't a poor grad student, I'd use BB or MTM almost exclusively). Banana Republic might be a good compromise between H&M's prices and BB's quality, though I know how much SF abhors its quality.

Tres interesting. I used this when I purchased my J Crew shirts.
post #2380 of 2386

I wear

 

S in BR shirts

S in JC

XS in BB

XS in GAP

 

I am 5'7 147lbs square shoulders and stocky. 37 chest, 31 waist, 14.5 neck.

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Originally Posted by nihilest View Post

Having just visited many stores on the search for the perfect-fitted, affordable OTR shirt, I made the following ranking based on how slim the shirts are, in general (not taking specific measurements, etc.). For reference, I'm 5'8'', 145lb, ~10% BF (14'' neck, 33'' sleeve, 36-37'' chest, 29'' waist). The price ranges are what I expect to buy for, when they're on really good sale. Also, please be aware that everything is biased, based on my own experiences.

13. Lands End - S (Tailored Fit) [$15-30]: An entire size too big. Good quality for the price.
12. J. Crew - S [$30-45]: Pretty boxy; practically an entire size too big. Great quality.
11. Banana Republic - S (Regular) [$30-40]: Pretty boxy. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew's.
10. Express - S (Fitted) [$35-45]: Typical "slim-fit", but still too boxy for me. Horrible quality.
9. Old Navy - S (Slim) [$15-20]: Slightly slimmer than Express'. Horrible quality, but it's expected.
8. Club Monaco - S (Slim) [$30-40]: About the same as Old Navy's. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew.
7. J. Crew - XS [$30-45]: Slightly slimmer than Old Navy's, but still not slim enough for me. Great quality.
6. Banana Republic - S (Slim Fit) [$30-40]: Slightly slimmer than J. Crew's. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew's.
5. Brooks Brothers - S (Extra-Slim Fit) [$40-60]: Slightly slimmer than Banana Republic's; great fit. Amazing quality.
4. H&M - S (Slim) [$15-25]: Slightly slimmer than Brooks Brother's; ideal fit. Poor quality, but suitable to the cheap price.
3. Zara - S (Slim) [$40-50]: About the same as H&M; ideal fit. Pretty poor quality.
2. Express - S (Extra-Slim) [$35-45]: Slightly slimmer than Zara; a little too slim for my tastes. Horrible quality.
1. Club Monaco - XS (Slim) [$30-40]: Slightly slimmer or same as Express'; a little too slim for my tastes and collar is just a little too small. Quality is a step lower than J. Crew's.



Notes: I forgot to write down whether the J. Crew shirts I tried on were Regular or Slim-Fit (I think they were Slim, but I'm not entirely certain). I should also try on Banana Republic's XS Slim just to see how it compares to Club Monaco's XS Slim.

In conclusion, BB ESF and H&M Slim are my two favorites. H&M has my preferred fit, but the quality is nothing compared to BB's. In contrast, BB has amazing quality, but it's slightly too boxy compared to H&M's fit. However, this small difference in fit is pretty negligible compared to the huge difference in quality. Thus, I use BB for my main versatile shirts, whereas I have H&M shirts for back-ups, less-popular patterns, more extravagant colors, etc. Wardrobe-wise, I plan to keep ~5 BB ESF shirts and ~5-7 H&M shirts (if I weren't a poor grad student, I'd use BB or MTM almost exclusively). Banana Republic might be a good compromise between H&M's prices and BB's quality, though I know how much SF abhors its quality.

Tres interesting. I used this when I purchased my J Crew shirts.

 

 

Nice list. Any of them on sale now for 4th of July? 

post #2382 of 2386

does anyone have a recommendation on how many extra inches to allow in the waist of a fitted shirt? my actual waist measures 33", plus whatever an undershirt will add

post #2383 of 2386
For a woven dress shirt, you'll want around 4" +/- 1" depending how trim you want the fit. For a knit shirt like our custom polos 1" would suffice for a trim fit. I am assuming your are measuring the waist around your midsection (belly)?
post #2384 of 2386
I have the opposite problem!

I'm a teeny girl who measures 28-22-27.5!

Rtw ladies shirts have darts in the wrong places and look like tents on me

Custom for women just doesn't exist

The very few Shirtmakers who will cut for me are prohibit ably expensive to have a complete wardrobe of them

So on a day to day basis I wear rtw shirts that are too big, or bespoke when they get too old to be smart..

I'm down to 16 shirts, a lot of which don't fit..

Thomas Pink are the best for me for rtw shirts, ct are nice material, TMLewin shrink a size after constant washing so I have to size up but I can't afford to live in bespoke shirts every day

I'm so tiny even some of my jeans and bikers are bespoke (using rare Japanese denims or lovely Japanese calf leather) and my tiny feet shod at great expense by Lobb of St James

All girls spend a lot on clothes, but I don't have a huge amount to show for it:-(
post #2385 of 2386
@hirsh. If you need any help with custom casual wear (polos, tshirts, hoodies), we can help. Ping me jtang@vastrm.com
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