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post #2176 of 2381
I discovered BOSS black sharp fit over the weekend, and was surprised at how well they fit, and the decrease in price from the slim fit is nice, too. They're priced around $95. I was able to find a BOSS black label, slim fit spread collar for $95 as well - which was unusual because the BOSS black slim fits that are below $100 never have the spread collar that I desire, this one did.

I haven't received the 17" neck JAB shirts I mentioned above - but they should be here at the end of this week. I have a feeling I will probably return them. At the end of the day, I have to decide what I'd prefer - a stylish, exceptional fitting dress shirt for $95, or a not-as-good fitting, less stylish dress shirt with a hideous breast pocket from JAB for $46. I hate breast pockets on shirts. While I'm not elated with the quality of BOSS, they seem to do the job, and I've developed a feeling for which material they use that I prefer to stay away from, and which seem to hold up a little better. I've explored a lot of options, and if there was a readily available, better quality shirt at this price that fit me as well and achieved the styling I desire, I'd already be buying it.

I have a feeling that the JAB shirts are going to arrive and be much too big - as the 16.5" neck was pushing it already in terms of extra fabric where there shouldn't be extra fabric (not sure how JAB are calling these "slim" fit). I also have to consider the fact that, while okay for work, the JAB shirt would be completely useless to me outside of a work setting, where the BOSS shirt is much more versatile, albeit twice the price. To summarize, in the most literal sense, the only thing the JAB shirt has going for it is the price.
post #2177 of 2381
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Yes, that is correct. It was $22 per shirt. However, I gave him about 10 shirts to do, and they were all the same size/make of shirt, so maybe that simplified things a little for him.

I think that's a pretty good price.
post #2178 of 2381
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Originally Posted by dagman1 View Post

I have a Boss Slim Fit, Brooks Brothers Extra Slim Fit, and J.Crew Regular Fit (apparently the slimmer one) dress shirts. I am 6' with about a 6-8" drop. I wear a 15.5/34. My favorite, all things considered, is the Boss shirt at $95. Then BB ESL at ~$70. Boss is the slimmest fitting shirt of them all, likely because it has two darts in the back, while not being to tight in the chest. I would describe the fit as being close to perfect. The collar/cuff construction is great. Brooks is the next slimmest, but my complaint is that they are slightly to slim in the chest, and slightly too large in the waist. They work, but they could be better is all. I think the reason is that they ado not have darts. If you work out, I would probably avoid, but if you are all around slimmer these would probably be good. But the exception would be the Supima oxford. The fit is the same. But the shirt is made in USA and the material is great. The collar is one of the better I've seen. J.Crew is meh. The back is too tenty (not brutal but not great). The collar/cuff construction is flimsy compared to Boss and BB. That said I recently bought a J.Crew shirt because I got it on a steep sale. I will probably get all my J.Crew shirts darted, which I think will greatly improve on them. Haven't tried much else worth mentioning. I will probably keep picking up Boss going forward. At $95 its well worth it.

I just wanted to update my earlier comments because I don't think they are quite accurate.

I have bought some more BB ESL shirts since my post. I find that BB ESL are actually bigger in the chest than the Boss Black Slim Fit shirts. Maybe the sizing has changed on BB since--I'm not really sure. I've been hitting the gym and now I'm at about a 41" chest with a 9" drop. Boss Slim Fit is really tight at this point in the chest to the point that I wouldn't buy anymore going forward in case I get any bigger. My recommendation if you have an athletic build is to go with the BB ESL. The collars are better on BB as well.

Also still stay away from J.Crew. Still fit like tents. Still have shitty collars.
post #2179 of 2381
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Originally Posted by dagman1 View Post

I just wanted to update my earlier comments because I don't think they are quite accurate.
I have bought some more BB ESL shirts since my post. I find that BB ESL are actually bigger in the chest than the Boss Black Slim Fit shirts. Maybe the sizing has changed on BB since--I'm not really sure. I've been hitting the gym and now I'm at about a 41" chest with a 9" drop. Boss Slim Fit is really tight at this point in the chest to the point that I wouldn't buy anymore going forward in case I get any bigger. My recommendation if you have an athletic build is to go with the BB ESL. The collars are better on BB as well.
Also still stay away from J.Crew. Still fit like tents. Still have shitty collars.

Today at lunch I tried on some BB slim fit in their luxury line in a 16.5 neck/35 sleeve. The material is nice, and there is no pocket which is a plus. They were a bit too large around the waist, but that can be tailored on the cheap. I was able to order some that were on sale, and picked up 3 of the luxury line shirts for $203 - and none of them were non-iron. Being that they needed tailored, I stayed away from the non-iron. Needless to say, I returned the 3 BOSS shirts I bought the day before. I have tried the BB extra slim before, and while I like the high armholes, they just don't fit me - right now I'm somewhere around a 44" chest with an 11" drop - I couldn't even button some of the sizes.

Yes, BOSS fits me the best off the rack and they make great patterns. However, the construction is not that great, and some of the shirts are paper thin (although some are better than others). I don't regret buying their shirts in the past (yet), but I'm going to avoid purchasing them in the future.
post #2180 of 2381
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Originally Posted by suited View Post


Today at lunch I tried on some BB slim fit in their luxury line in a 16.5 neck/35 sleeve. The material is nice, and there is no pocket which is a plus. They were a bit too large around the waist, but that can be tailored on the cheap. I was able to order some that were on sale, and picked up 3 of the luxury line shirts for $203 - and none of them were non-iron. Being that they needed tailored, I stayed away from the non-iron. Needless to say, I returned the 3 BOSS shirts I bought the day before. I have tried the BB extra slim before, and while I like the high armholes, they just don't fit me - right now I'm somewhere around a 44" chest with an 11" drop - I couldn't even button some of the sizes.
Yes, BOSS fits me the best off the rack and they make great patterns. However, the construction is not that great, and some of the shirts are paper thin (although some are better than others). I don't regret buying their shirts in the past (yet), but I'm going to avoid purchasing them in the future.

Is there some issue tailoring non-iron shirts? I have had many Charles Tyrwhitt non-iron shirts tailored with no issues that I know of.

post #2181 of 2381
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Is there some issue tailoring non-iron shirts? I have had many Charles Tyrwhitt non-iron shirts tailored with no issues that I know of.

It depends on who you ask. It has something to do with the coating that is applied to the shirt. See the thread below. In addition to that, I have also been told by a BB tailor (when they did tailoring, I learned today that they no longer do alterations) that he would not advise altering the non-iron shirts. You will hear various opinions - but I think that the traditional fabric without the coating is much softer and feels better to the touch. The non-iron, IMO, still needs to be ironed most of the time, if you want your shirt really crisp. However, the non-iron won't wrinkle during the day where the arms bend, etc.

http://www.styleforum.net/t/179433/altering-brooks-brothers-non-iron-shirts
post #2182 of 2381

Sorry if the answers to this question are somewhere in the 146 pages of this thread...

 

J Crew's 17/36 Slim-Fit shirts fit me better than any OTR shirt I've tried*.  There are a couple of minor exceptions (sleeves are 1/2" too short, neck is 1/4" too small).  The waist may be a half inch to an inch too big, but it's not too terrible.  Also, there's the stupid collar thing (which I don't mind for casual wear, but it's bad for playing dress up).

 

Can anyone recommend any other OTR shirts that might fit me as well or better?  Preferably ones with 3" semi-spread or button-down collars?  If I can't find anything better OTR (for under $100-120), I'm probably going to do MTO from Ratio.

 

*I'm not slim...my chest and waist are almost the same.  Nonetheless, these shirts fit me well whether or not they are true slim-fit shirts.

 

EDIT: I should add that I like pockets on my shirts.

post #2183 of 2381

Hi.

 

I've been researching slim fit shirts and I've read nearly all 100+ pages of the definitive guide, and the main ones I've been looking at are:

 

Hugh & Crye Short/Skinny: http://www.hughandcrye.com/fit

Brooks Brothers Extra Slim Fit - Size 14.5/33: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/content/Fullpages/sizechart.tem?popup=1

Kent Wang - Size 14.5/32.5: http://www.kentwang.com/about/shirts

 

My measurements are:

Neck: 14.5
Sleeve: 33
Chest: 36
Waist: 30

I’m about 5’10" 135lbs

 

I've emailed them for more information, and this is how slim they are:

 

Hugh & Crye Short Skinny is narrower in the body and a shorter length than both BB ESF 14.5 and KW 14.5 (which are cut similar). I've heard quality for both BB and KW is pretty decent, but I've searched everywhere and there's only 1-2 threads on Hugh & Crye and nothing about their quality.

 

Does anyone have any experience with the brand? Thanks a lot.

post #2184 of 2381

Hello everyone:

 

I am contributing to this thread because I am in search of a dress shirt, spread collar, that is a TRUE slim fit. Man, I have searched for the longest and even the CT's slim fits, I have seen from their fitting guide, that the sleeves are all the same and low arm holes and where it is "slim fit" is in the chest and waist area. 

 

I bought a few "tailored fit" shirts from Jos A Bank and they fit awesomely in the chest and waist area but the sleeves look like a flying squirrel effect when I raise my arms! 

 

I was thinking of having them altered but from my research on the forums, I have heard it is hard to get done at a professional tailor and/or expensive. I might as well start from scratch.

 

I am 5"8', 155, 31 waist, 41 chest, slightly lean, muscular build but my arms aren't that big (even though I work out). I want a shirt that fits well ALL OVER.  Anyone know of a brand that is a true slim fit, with higher arm holes, slimmer sleeves and tapered chest/waist area that isn't too expensive? I will trade in my squirrely JOS A Banks for 2 good true slim shirts (I won't be needing them except for possible interviews... I am a designer, so it's not for every day use).

 

Thanks everyone! 

 

Chris

post #2185 of 2381
doesn't JAB have a new line of slim fit shirts? not their tailored fit, but slim fits. you might want to look into that if the tailored fits fit you well except the sleeves.
post #2186 of 2381

Where can I find dress shirts in XS/13.5? Is MTM the only way or are there any brands that make shirts in 13.5?

post #2187 of 2381

Can someone who wears TM Lewin Slim Fit comment on the chest size? I am looking at the 16" neck, and the chest size of the shirt is a whopping 48.5" which seems very big. I believe a 16.5" neck, especially in a slim fit, correlates to a 42" chest. Why would there be over 6" of extra fabric? Typically there is a about 4, and I would expect less in a slim fit shirt. Are these super baggy in the chest area? The waist measurement looks good.

post #2188 of 2381

Someone at TM Lewin answered my question for me in the Community section:

 

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Yes, we are aware that there are a few issues with our current Slim Fit sizes. We have recently looked into this in a lot of detail and we are now revising our sizing. A new Slim Fit sizing, that is more in line with other retailers, will be available next February.

 

I am really sorry for the problems with the size of this range, and I do hope that you will send me your thoughts on the new sizes when they launch next year.

 

Best,

Wayne

 

Can someone who owns one of these shirts comment as well?

post #2189 of 2381
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Is there some issue tailoring non-iron shirts? I have had many Charles Tyrwhitt non-iron shirts tailored with no issues that I know of.

There should be no problem, just don't have them professionally laundered as the coating that keeps it non-iron will be removed.
post #2190 of 2381

Thanks zizou.  I will check out the slim fits and update the board.  :)

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