Charles Tyrwhitt Oxfords

Artem · Jun 13, 2013

Does anybody have experience with Charles Tyrwhitt oxford sizing? Or with any Charles Tyrwhitt shoe sizing?

I so, what size are you in them? What size are you in Allen Edmonds or any other common U.S. size shoes (Chuck Taylors, Clarks DBs, Nike running shoes, etc.)?

And is the size on the website UK or U.S. sizing?

Subutai · Jun 13, 2013

First, the sizing listed, like the prices, are based on your location. So if you are seeing US $, then you are likely seeing US sizes.

Second, I've tried only one pair of CT shoes, the black brogue monk straps, and they were huge. I wear 8.5 E in pretty much any maker that offers them, and if not, I go with a 9D. With the CT shoes, however, I was swimming in 8.5 D. The toe area was very flat (for me) and generally uncomfortable compared to my Aldens, AE's, and Barkers. If you're near NYC, the store on 7th ave carries a few models.

Finally, although there's agreement on here that some of CT's shoes are basically Loake 1880's, it's hit or miss. You have to look at the specific model to determine quality.

md2010 · Jun 13, 2013

Save your money don’t bother with ct shoes. They are rubbish quality.

Artem · Jun 13, 2013

md2010 said:
Save your money don’t bother with ct shoes. They are rubbish quality.

How so? What's bad about them? I just returned my AE Park Avs because the quality wasn't what I'd expect from $350 shoes. I have To Boot NYs that cost less and are nicer. And they were loose in the heel while fitting well throughout the toe box.

md2010 · Jun 13, 2013

here-
http://www.styleforum.net/t/268299/charles-tyrwhitt-shoe-quality

jaywhyy · Jun 13, 2013

Artem said:
How so? What's bad about them? I just returned my AE Park Avs because the quality wasn't what I'd expect from $350 shoes. I have To Boot NYs that cost less and are nicer. And they were loose in the heel while fitting well throughout the toe box.

I'm not sure what you mean by quality, as AE uses better leathers and goodyear welting versus To Boot's leathers and blake stitch. Not to say To Boot's are bad, and I prefer their aesthetic compared to most AE lasts. For fitting, the Park Ave is on the 5 last and is often recommended to size down 1/2 size in length (and possibly size up in width). I hope you didn't the PAs in the size you wear in trainers or sneakers because it's likely you ordered a shoe that is 1 full size too big.

With a budget around $350 you may be able to find Alfred Sargent or C&J benchgrade on sale or ebay/BST. Meermin is also an option if you're able to wait. The top of the line CT shoes are Loake 1880s which are comparable to AE in quality. The others are corrected grain and not worth your money.

jamiemcp · Jun 14, 2013

Tyrwhitt generaly isnt very good quality, its the Top Shop or H&M of work shirts.

jaywhyy · Jun 14, 2013

jamiemcp said:
Tyrwhitt generaly isnt very good quality, its the Top Shop or H&M of work shirts.

That's pretty ridiculous. I'd categorize them a notch below Brooks Brothers.

Artem · Jun 14, 2013

jaywhyy said:
That's pretty ridiculous. I'd categorize them a notch below Brooks Brothers.

As far as shoes or everything? I have 6 of their dress shirts, 2 sport shirts, and a polo. The quality is great for $30 shirts and the fit is great too. I can't wear BB; they're tents.

msulinski · Jun 14, 2013

Their "made in England" luxury calf shoes are perfectly fine, are made by Loake, and are equivalent to their 1880 line.

I have the shoe pictured at the top (I am wearing them today). I like the shape much better than the AE Park Avenue. I take a 9.5E in the Allen Edmonds 5-last (Park Avenue, Strand, etc), and take a US 9 in Charles Tyrwhitt.

Regarding their rank vs. Brooks Brothers, I agree that their shirts are probably a notch below. BB has single-needle stitching vs. double for CT. CT, however, has a much greater variety, especially in the slim and extra slim fit shirts. As for shoes, it is tough to compare, as BB has such a wide range of quality levels.

Quadcammer · Jun 14, 2013

well this thread is filled with nonsense.

carry on

jamiemcp · Jun 14, 2013

You’ll notice I didn’t actually compare them quality wise to Top Shop or H&M. What I am driving at is that CT is a relatively mass market producer and has a quality to match. To me, and this is subjective I don’t think they are all that special. I do have a couple of their shirts both of which I have brought when I’ve had a shirt emergency whilst at work or away. There’s nothing wrong with them per-say but personally I wouldn’t waste the money on purchasing anything from them especially shoes. You can probably get just as good a quality from somewhere else. I’m a snob though with my own prejudices against certain brands. Mind you I don’t rate BB either, but that’s for a whole different reason.

I think its symptomatic of a wider phenonum, people seem to see a British shirt maker and assume its top notch. It isn’t your just buying into the marketing BS. Jermyn street is full of junk these days, but fortunately there are still a few jems.

stampfki · Feb 11, 2015

msulinski said:
Their "made in England" luxury calf shoes are perfectly fine, are made by Loake, and are equivalent to their 1880 line. I have the shoe pictured at the top (I am wearing them today). I like the shape much better than the AE Park Avenue. I take a 9.5E in the Allen Edmonds 5-last (Park Avenue, Strand, etc), and take a US 9 in Charles Tyrwhitt. Regarding their rank vs. Brooks Brothers, I agree that their shirts are probably a notch below. BB has single-needle stitching vs. double for CT. CT, however, has a much greater variety, especially in the slim and extra slim fit shirts. As for shoes, it is tough to compare, as BB has such a wide range of quality levels.

I am also wearing them and really like them. assuming this is a Loake 1880 collection, do you know which last shape it is?

Thx

The Saint · Mar 2, 2019

jamiemcp said:
You’ll notice I didn’t actually compare them quality wise to Top Shop or H&M. What I am driving at is that CT is a relatively mass market producer and has a quality to match. To me, and this is subjective I don’t think they are all that special. I do have a couple of their shirts both of which I have brought when I’ve had a shirt emergency whilst at work or away. There’s nothing wrong with them per-say but personally I wouldn’t waste the money on purchasing anything from them especially shoes. You can probably get just as good a quality from somewhere else. I’m a snob though with my own prejudices against certain brands. Mind you I don’t rate BB either, but that’s for a whole different reason.

I think its symptomatic of a wider phenonum, people seem to see a British shirt maker and assume its top notch. It isn’t your just buying into the marketing BS. Jermyn street is full of junk these days, but fortunately there are still a few jems.

What in your opinion then , are a few gems , Jamie. .

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