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post #46 of 160
This might be relevant to the discussion.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201204/why-do-women-fall-serial-killers
post #47 of 160
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

If personality is what matters so much to women, how do we account for the curious phenomenon of large numbers of women becoming devoted groupies of monstrous, wicked murderers, especially if they are good-looking? There was a good op-ed piece on this in the L.A. Times recently. It was inspired by the fact that the infamous Dzokhar Tsarnaev has attracted a huge claque of female devotees. There is something about truly evil men that really appeals to the black, little souls of a great many women.

The article mentioned that Scott Peterson (of Scott & Lacy infamy) received a marriage proposal from an 18-year-old girl the day he arrived in the pen!

Men who are kind, generous loving and attentive to women find themselves spurned and despised more often than not. The women perceive such traits as weakness and prefer brutes, bastards and bad boys instead. I won't say this is true of all women, but it is true of all too many of them.

Jan, please do not confuse my use of the word "personality" to in any way equate with "good person" or "kind," "caring," or the like. Think more along the line of "charisma" or "animal magnetism" or even "pick up artist." I agree 100% with the bolded and that's what I have been getting at this whole thread.
post #48 of 160
Thread Starter 

Pick up artist?

LOL are you kidding me.

 

I have been with RSD in my teens and even hung out with some of the people on there IRL and I can tell you that they do not get the good looking girls that we are talking about in fact most are lucky to get an average looking woman who is drunk. These pickup artists who do get laid do so because of their status and because they are rich. All of their gimmicks do not work in real life. A guy is better off putting down the advice on personality and just getting some muscles (like I am trying to do right now), acquiring style, and doing something with his looks (trying to figure out in this thread what that is) to attract women than to read a page off that PUA crap. I would also recommend plastic surgery if you have certain shortcomings (and I have looked into getting that if I hit my mid 20s and my facial features are out of place).

 

Don't get me wrong, Tyler from RSD is a cool dude but no way he competes against the handsome guy going out.

 

All these bad boys you talk about getting laid get laid because they either have looks, status (drug dealers in college, etc.) or a lot of money.
 

When it comes to ONS and such, looks matter more to women than they do to men. With relationships, looks still matter but things such as status and other factors can help bridge the gap somehow.

 

We live in a shallow society in Western culture. Looks and status prevail above all else.

post #49 of 160
Thread Starter 

Now getting back on topic more and more, I want to say nothing in my opinion can beat that respect you get for being a good looking guy. Being smart, being rich, being cool, and I mean none of that. Just that feel of having women you just met make moves on you, other men get jealous because women are so crazy for you, constantly being treated well by society, never having to worry about being a loner your entire life, knowing you can get special privileges from strangers, knowing that you can get paid for your looks (male model), and knowing that if anyone says anything wrong to you or about you you basically have an army of women willing to stick up for you.

 

I see the kind of respect good looking guys get at my age and I ask myself it has to be some genetics but there has to be ways men can achieve that status just like they can achieve being brainy, rich, and cool.

 

Like when you are my age, in your early 20s, nothing can beat good looks, like nothing.

post #50 of 160
You sure have this stuff figured out. You know, for somebody begging an Internet forum he's just started posting on for advice.
post #51 of 160
Thread Starter 

Oh no, the advice I asked is the matter of being a handsome guy and if it is almost all genetics and how one can overcome average genetics to achieve the goal of being handsome. What I do have figured out is that being a handsome guy is a major advantage in life, more so than any other positive trait (money, intelligence, etc.).

 

I know for a fact if I had that and if I have the chance to achieve that my life will be golden. There is literally no downside to being a handsome man, none. In many ways, you can compare to being a god in a greek myth (like Zeus).

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post #53 of 160
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Me? Sensitive? crackup[1].gif

It might be small but at least it is sensitive, rejoice!
post #54 of 160
Is Purse Forum stoking up the engine on the Troll-Train again?
post #55 of 160
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Originally Posted by ClarkKent View Post


I would put myself more in the 6 to 6.5 range, good enough to be voted into beautifulpeople.com but not the stud on campus with large muscles and chiseled features that Armani and Calvin Klein look for in models.

As for the rating, most girls I have dated have been in the 6 to 7 range, cute girls that get hit on but not the girls that turn heads and have guys flooding up their phone.

6.3 or 6.8? I personally only hit on 6.72371646 or above, just want to know if I am better than you....
post #56 of 160
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Originally Posted by ClarkKent View Post

Now getting back on topic more and more, I want to say nothing in my opinion can beat that respect you get for being a good looking guy. Being smart, being rich, being cool, and I mean none of that. Just that feel of having women you just met make moves on you, other men get jealous because women are so crazy for you, constantly being treated well by society, never having to worry about being a loner your entire life, knowing you can get special privileges from strangers, knowing that you can get paid for your looks (male model), and knowing that if anyone says anything wrong to you or about you you basically have an army of women willing to stick up for you.

I see the kind of respect good looking guys get at my age and I ask myself it has to be some genetics but there has to be ways men can achieve that status just like they can achieve being brainy, rich, and cool.

Like when you are my age, in your early 20s, nothing can beat good looks, like nothing.

Well, I've been trying to spare your feelings. It is genetic, I've seen your pic, get used to being alone or with ugly fat chics. Sorry but someone had to tell you.
post #57 of 160
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Well, I've been trying to spare your feelings. It is genetic, I've seen your pic, get used to being alone or with ugly fat chics. Sorry but someone had to tell you.


and I have been trying to spare yours as well and be civil here

 

get used to being stuck in the friend zone while you delude yourself into thinking personality actually means anything to women as the pretty boy goes home with the girl of your dreams and you sit on internet forums ranting (for almost 7 years now it seems)

 

so you seen my picture with my eyes crossed out and you call me ugly because I disagreed with that little fantasy in your head

post #58 of 160
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Originally Posted by ClarkKent View Post


and I have been trying to spare yours as well and be civil here

get used to being stuck in the friend zone while delude yourself into thinking personality actually means anything to women while the pretty boy goes home with the girl of your dreams as you sit on internet forums trolling people and making shit post (for almost 7 years now it seems)

so you seen my picture with my eyes crossed out and you call me ugly because I disagreed with your little fantasy in your head

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I have to tell you I really enjoyed when Brad Pitt was put out as an example of a guy that's just naturally good looking and you argued with that. I give your trolling about a 4/10.
post #59 of 160
Thread Starter 

I never questioned his looks, I said he gets hyped for his looks due to his success as an actor. He is a combination of status, wealth, and good looks in one. Someone who would be turning heads even if he wasn't famous is David Gandy.

 

But hey, you don't worry your sweet little brain about that, just rely on your personality and that 10 will pick you, the guy with 7 years of experience posting on a style forum over Brad Pitt any day.lol8[1].gif

 

You must be such a nice guy, if there was a guy out there exactly like you she would so date him. I mean you must be like a brother to her man.

post #60 of 160
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Originally Posted by ClarkKent View Post

I never questioned his looks, I said he gets hyped for his looks due to his success as an actor. He is a combination of status, wealth, and good looks in one. Someone who would be turning heads even if he wasn't famous is David Gandy.

But hey, you don't worry your sweet little brain about that, just rely on your personality and that 10 will pick you, the guy with 7 years of experience posting on a style forum over Brad Pitt any day.lol8%5B1%5D.gif

Reading comprehension; you should try it.

I have to tell you your picture has revealed you to be of extremely average and non-descript looks, your posture indicates a downtrodden and flat personality, and your posting demonstrates your deficiencies in intellect.

As I'm feeling bad for someone of your unfortunate disposition I'll point out to you I never said anything about "just rely on your personality." You created that in your (empty) head. I was treating you like you were not a troll, which you obviously now are, and trying to dissuade you from the advice you were getting about being a well groomed gentleman and how women would then flock to you. Everyday life demonstrates that is specious (better Google that word, champ) and many women react to certain psychological stimuli that create attraction that goes beyond looks. Your fixation on looks is understandable, given your complete lack of them, but ultimately counterproductive as you will never achieve them. My advice to you was to realize you're not hopeless if you carry yourself properly. We can see you're simply fixated on what you will never achieve and are, at least at the moment, not ready to accept good advice on working on how you approach women.

Cheers.
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