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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

Another factor not mentioned is that women depreciate with age much faster than men. If you are still a single male in your 40s and are still in good shape, you will find that those very same women who wouldn't have pissed on you if you had been on fire 20 years earlier are suddenly more than willing to do all kinds of nasty things with you...and they can still be pretty darned good looking. All this I can definitely attest to from personal experience.

As one 40-ish woman remarked to me, "With any woman over 38, all you have to do is ask." Her other great quote, BTW, was, "All women who smoke love to suck."

I take your main point, JLib (no Hibbert). But doesn't depreciation usually denote a decline in value? smile.gif
post #137 of 160
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Wrong and wrong.

Now, if I wanted to play the odds, and my goal was simply to get laid from some random stray, Bhowie is 100% correct. However, a much more complete answer is that each woman (and man for that matter) finds a possible bed partner attractive based on a mix of all four criteria. Even more complete all four criteria mix different per individual boaning potential.

But if you just want to play the odds it's the swagger that counts.

You really think all birds can be bought? You don't think swag is the most important? Absent all other properties swag is the most important.
post #138 of 160
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Louis CK has a bit about this in his latest special. His point is, if you're a dumpy, unattractive guy but you can hang on until your 40s and stay financially stable and clean, all those hot girls that never gave you the time of day when you were a teenager will be very happy to date you.

Also, please tell me you hit that. She was practically begging you.

Oh, most definitely. I asked her for directions on arriving in an unfamiliar town, and we ended up in bed that evening. That's the only time anything like that ever happened to me
post #139 of 160
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Oh, most definitely. I asked her for directions on arriving in an unfamiliar town, and we ended up in bed that evening. That's the only time anything like that ever happened to me

That's what I'm talking bout
post #140 of 160
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You really think all birds can be bought? You don't think swag is the most important? Absent all other properties swag is the most important.

What I said? You did not read it well.
post #141 of 160
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sometimes I wonder why we can't have more members like you on this forum

money matters but at my age it isn't that big of a deal yet, I don't think I will ever become a millionaire and plus a handsome man can experience a lot more success with women than a rich man ever could

Out of all of the posts in this thread, this is the one that pissed me off. What the fuck do you mean WE? You joined this site this month. You are not we, you are some bitter loser who can't figure out that your personality is the reason girls won't touch you. As a side note, I would bet a thousand dollars this kid is the kind of person who thinks he's a nice guy and gets friend zoned when in reality his desperate attitude and judging by his posts, the excessive amount of time he spends checking out other dudes is what is hindering his progress. Thirdly, and most seriously, the only thing that matters to a girl is confidence and making her feel special when she is with you. I have seen many fat ugly guys bag hot girls because they were fun guys and could make a girl laugh.
post #142 of 160
^I have seen fat, ugly guys bag hot girls, not often, but I have seen it. Invariably, they had money--plenty of it.

Actually, any guy who is good at making girls laugh has an extraordinary talent: Women are inherently foul-tempered creatures with absolutely no sense of humor. I think any man with considerable experience with the opposite sex will agree with me.
post #143 of 160
I think too many gentically good looking men and women think they dont have to make an effort . This costs them in anything beyond short term . Funny or money or preferably both are real powerhouses . Smart is good but there are so few smart women who arn't ball busters . Not saying they don't exist just a rarity . Appearing unavailable seems to attract women ime .
So wacha got. Be funny , appear self supporting and possibly unavailable,dress well (this is huge) and seem interested in things beyond yourself . If this doesnt work you are probably looking in the wrong places.
post #144 of 160
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

I think too many gentically good looking men and women think they dont have to make an effort . This costs them in anything beyond short term . Funny or money or preferably both are real powerhouses . Smart is good but there are so few smart women who arn't ball busters . Not saying they don't exist just a rarity . Appearing unavailable seems to attract women ime .
So wacha got. Be funny , appear self supporting and possibly unavailable,dress well (this is huge) and seem interested in things beyond yourself . If this doesnt work you are probably looking in the wrong places.

There's something to this. I think it ends up hurting women worse than men, for a couple reasons. Men aren't usually as tempted to coast on looks because the societal expectations for men are larger than simply looking good. We're supposed to have money, be powerful, etc, etc. To get those things, even attractive men have to work hard, develop a personality, all that. Women, well, too many pretty women are content to just be pretty and take what comes with that, without developing the rest of their self. Either they end up shallow or they're lost when their looks begin to go. Men also get a pass on that front, as we're considered good looking for longer than women.

That's one of the reasons I think a lot of guys who focus on scoring hot chicks end up thinking that women are all shallow bitches. A larger number of extremely attractive women are shallow and bitchy, because they can get away with it. Dial your expectations on looks back a bit and you find a lot more fully developed human beings.

Certainly there are fully developed extremely hot women, but they're awfully hard to find and hard to land if you do.
post #145 of 160
I'm sure I've shared my concept of "pretty girl syndrome" here before?
post #146 of 160
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

There's something to this. I think it ends up hurting women worse than men, for a couple reasons. Men aren't usually as tempted to coast on looks because the societal expectations for men are larger than simply looking good. We're supposed to have money, be powerful, etc, etc. To get those things, even attractive men have to work hard, develop a personality, all that. Women, well, too many pretty women are content to just be pretty and take what comes with that, without developing the rest of their self. Either they end up shallow or they're lost when their looks begin to go. Men also get a pass on that front, as we're considered good looking for longer than women.

That's one of the reasons I think a lot of guys who focus on scoring hot chicks end up thinking that women are all shallow bitches. A larger number of extremely attractive women are shallow and bitchy, because they can get away with it. Dial your expectations on looks back a bit and you find a lot more fully developed human beings.

Certainly there are fully developed extremely hot women, but they're awfully hard to find and hard to land if you do.
I dont know how old you are but if you have made these realizations at a relatively early point in your life you have saved yourself a lot of potential misery . On the other hand if you are like me and have learned these things the hard way then all I can say is I hear you brother.
One other thing I have learned is that women in general are much less visual than men in regards to sexual attraction . A fact for which I shall be eternally grateful
post #147 of 160
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I'm sure I've shared my concept of "pretty girl syndrome" here before?


Refresh us, please. 

post #148 of 160
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post


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Indeed ! As a noob ive probably not heard it
post #149 of 160
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

^I have seen fat, ugly guys bag hot girls, not often, but I have seen it. Invariably, they had money--plenty of it.

Actually, any guy who is good at making girls laugh has an extraordinary talent: Women are inherently foul-tempered creatures with absolutely no sense of humor. I think any man with considerable experience with the opposite sex will agree with me.

I know some pretty gross dudes who don't have money that have hot girlfriends just because they make girls laugh. Guys tend to forget that the reason girls are so foul tempered is because they feel guarded and have to deal with douche bags getting in their personal space on a daily basis. I am in Miami right now and just saw this girl in the hotel lobby walking to her room at 630 in the morning get hit on by guy who basically cornered her and wouldn't let her leave until he could feel her "toned calves". This was all happening while 3 of his drunk and rather large friends were standing around her. I feel like bullshit like that happening to you regularly may make you a little more foul tempered. And lets face it, if you are actively trying to be funny to a girl you probably have an end goal of getting her naked, as does every other guy she talks to that night.
post #150 of 160
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post


Refresh us, please. 

Pretty Girl Syndrome is pretty self-explanatory. They feel they will be treated special because they are pretty. They feel they can get away with shit on the job, get preferential treatment in social situations, etc., merely because they are pretty. The reason they feel this way is because they are correct 99.9% of the time. I have no use for this type of personality and shut them down immediately and without mercy. What I've noticed is this brings pretty much only two reactions. One is they will immediately hate you and the other is they will immediately become submissive and/or attracted to you. These two reactions do not happen together but rather on an either/or basis.
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