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post #376 of 477
The friend or her mother?
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

The essence of "no f***s given" is context independent dressing. You dress exactly as you like whether you are giving a presentation to the board, to the Nobel committee, or just going down the street for a coffee. There is no "dressing up", and significantly, there is no "dressing down".

Someone who really doesn't give a f*** dresses for their own edification and comfort, not for any audience in particular. It first requires that you have a strongly developed sense of personal style - which is to say - a mode of dressing in which you are most comfortable. And then you dress that way regardless of occasion. You are not doing this to piss people off. You are not doing this to make people happy. You are not doing this for an audience. In fact, whether people are present or are not present is irrelevant. You are doing this because this is how you roll.

/thread.

"There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them."

Louis Armstrong.
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Originally Posted by David Reeves View Post

Thats the key though isnt it? I don't care about crazy combinations or the need to coordinate complex patterns, I just put my clothes on.

Its not a standard uniform at all, just in your mind. walking around the city of new york all day in that DB suit I would be lucky to see anyone wearing an outfit like that in 2013 and you know it. I think it is less of a uniform (although historically it is) than the uniforms I see on here, short jackets, short trousers, big cuff, bracelets etc, etc I see that all the time and its very fashionable and predictable.

I am more into minimalism in clothing though, I know its not so "fashionable" now, but I myself favor a more clean, but sharp simple look. If I am ever wearing something that is risky of being a "fuck up" I am not the dresser I want to be. I am not averse to taking risks, but theres more exciting things to take risks on than matching pocket squares and shirts......I mean who gives a fuck about that?

DBs are definitely rare.

And - luckily for the world - so are track suits.

What I was asking was if you were offering those as examples of
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Originally Posted by David Reeves 
...an artistic mind with a good intuitive grasp of balance, composition and color

Burgundy - dark grey seems about as standard issue as you can get. It works and there's no question about that. Same with blue - white.

I stick pretty much exclusively to the classics myself so as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with that.

I'm more interested in why some less well-worn conbinations work and why exactly that is.

I have no talent, so I study.
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I said "/thread". Stop forcing it. Sheesh.
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post


/thread.

"There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them."

Louis Armstrong.

The entire statement regarding context independence doesn't work for this conversation because, if you are participating in society, there is always context. Try showing up for work wearing a speedo because "that's how you roll" and let us know how that works out for you (and if you're a lifeguard, let me know how your suit holds up to swimming). Any functional person, no matter how far they are pushing boundaries of style and fashion, does so within one or more contexts. Those successful at it manage to actually redefine what is acceptable within a given context, but they certainly aren't ignoring context.

 

If you actually apply true, easily quantifiable, NFG what you get is the average (all too common) slob. The guy in old sweatpants and a sweat stained wife-beater really doesn't give a fuck how he looks or what anyone thinks. The guy in the OTR, zero alterations, giant shouldered, bunching around the shoes Men's Wearhouse suit who is only wearing a suit because context (work) says he has to? Yeah, he is really and truly displaying NFG. Every picture in this thread, in comparison, displays a pretty large number of fucks given.

 

If trying to define SF's idea of NFG, I'd posit that it isn't really NFG at all but instead some type of "look" that appears effortless, yet not derivative. Actually nailing it down is quite difficult because it is very subjective (even if an outfit works, what looks to one person as effortless looks like try-hard to another due to differences in taste). Furthermore, the purpose of the thread, as I understood it, was not to try and answer that question definitively. The purpose was to look at purported examples and try to identify what works and what doesn't work. In short, a much more practical (and interesting) exercise derailed by far too much intentionally esoteric discussion about the nature of NFG and not enough actual examples to evaluate.

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Has no one read the earlier posted working definition of NFG?
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Has no one read the earlier posted working definition of NFG?

What page is it on?

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Originally Posted by MisterFu View Post

What page is it on?

http://www.styleforum.net/t/349126/no-effs-given-correctly/315

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Thread Starter 
What do people think about Patrick Johnson?

Just another Pitti?

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If you want another Pitti, check http://angelbespoke.tumblr.com/ out.  Obnoxious, ostentatious clown.

 

P. Johnson is not pitti enough.

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This thread is amaze. Zero examples of no fucks being given - tons of content with regard to no fucks being given. 

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Originally Posted by Frankie22 View Post

Zero examples of no fucks being given

Do you have a few in mind?

It's just [img]image URL[/img]
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My impression of P Johnson is that it's all a bit try-hard, but who knows in real life? Maybe he really gives no fucks?
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

If you want another Pitti, check http://angelbespoke.tumblr.com/ out.  Obnoxious, ostentatious clown.

 

P. Johnson is not pitti enough.

Wow, it's a blogsite of endless douchebag clichés. 

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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

What do people think about Patrick Johnson?

Just another Pitti?

NFG? No way. Too tight, too short everything (he couldn't button that jacket if he tried) - try-hard right down to the dopey aviators. Seriously, this looks like your standard GQ "what to wear to the Hampton's" photo-shoot. All fashion and absolutely no style.

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