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post #61 of 1716
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Originally Posted by canstyleace View Post

I thought you were waiting for them to come get you?

I put out the invite but not a one came courting.

Or was that your way of saying I beat you to it? wink.gif
post #62 of 1716
This collection confirms EGs demise into bullshit fashion rather than wearable heritage. For this reason coupled with the low production standards is why all I buy these days is real mccoys clothes - superior in every way imaginable!!!
post #63 of 1716
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Originally Posted by jack london View Post

This collection confirms EGs demise into bullshit fashion rather than wearable heritage. For this reason coupled with the low production standards is why all I buy these days is real mccoys clothes - superior in every way imaginable!!!

So, what you're saying is, you'd like Daiki to style his collection like a thousand wannabe's are doing because of his heritage fashion pioneering. He is a designer not a regurgitator. Don't get me wrong, Real McCoys are what they are but their inspirations are not rocket science.

Additionally, having checked out your 18 posts and to find the majority of them negative, you need to know that forums are a place to discuss, not a wailing wall.
Edited by Drinkwaters - 6/17/13 at 3:43am
post #64 of 1716
I like this collection quite a lot, the windowpane truman jackets are both really good.
post #65 of 1716
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Originally Posted by jack london View Post

This collection confirms EGs demise into bullshit fashion rather than wearable heritage. For this reason coupled with the low production standards is why all I buy these days is real mccoys clothes - superior in every way imaginable!!!

I would disagree 100% man. This is an amazing blend of workwear construction and styles mixed with more playful fabrics. EG has always had a more dressy side to it, as well as the 'workwear inspired' side. I think everything looks great, the fabrics may be a bit too much for my liking, but the more solid outerwear, pants and shirting look really good. What low production standards are you talking about? Nothing has changed from 07 until now, if you want to see low production standards take a look at WWM after Daiki left and McNairy took over. The construction of the garments plummeted to an all time low. EG has not slipped on quality or construction.
Edited by lawlercon - 6/16/13 at 7:45pm
post #66 of 1716
I was wondering about this talk about low production standards myself. I can only comment on EG since about '10 - when I started buying, and it seems uniformly solid.
post #67 of 1716

I think one man's meat is probably another man's poison. Hence, if the brand don't suit your taste, style, pricing, construction etc ............ just leave & look for the ideal brand. Don't have to slam the brand. That is why there are so many brands out there to suit different needs. 

 

I'm pretty happy & satisfied with EG so far since I started in 2009/2010.

post #68 of 1716
I think it's funny when people come into the EG specific thread and talk shit about it,
your not going to find many people that agree with you here.
post #69 of 1716
Construction has always been solid. Been wearing since Nom de Guerre first started selling them in NY in the Mid 00's and have beat the hell out of a ton of their garments and they have always stood up to the abuse. Construction has always been solid.
post #70 of 1716
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Originally Posted by xander_horst View Post

I was wondering about this talk about low production standards myself. I can only comment on EG since about '10 - when I started buying, and it seems uniformly solid.

Fabrics, buttons and stitching - all diminished in quality over the last few years.
It's a real shame how profit always trumps integrity in the end, I used to love EG.
post #71 of 1716
I don't see that at all. I have EG products spanning a good 5 years and I have seen no change in quality of materials or construction at all. Actually, quite the opposite...very consistent quality of materials and production. I have chambray workshirts covering a lot of seasons in that range (they're my favorite shirts...I think I have 9 in total with a couple favorite seasons duplicated) and the consistency of material quality and construction is really quite impressive actually. Fit certainly varies some...but the construction is almost identical with only differences in fabric.

Not to say they are absolutely perfect, I've had a few issues here and there and seen a few others (belt loop came unstitched once, saw some snaps come off a vest once, that's really all I can think of), any mass produced item will have a few issues here and there I think....but considering I have quite a bit of EG I think the quality is consistently very high overall.
post #72 of 1716
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Originally Posted by jack london View Post

Fabrics, buttons and stitching - all diminished in quality over the last few years.
It's a real shame how profit always trumps integrity in the end, I used to love EG.

Buttons are just as prone to come off as they've always been and fabrics and stitching pretty much the same. Haven't seen much difference. Triple stitch on the workshirts are still there, stitiching on the fatigue pants are holding up in the recent versions, etc. Only complaint I've seen here was for the fatigue pants from this season that ripped? Most of the time when there's defects it seems that they were interesting materials that weren't fatigue tested for strength, which is what likely led to the ripped fatigue pants. Can't say if that's a reduction in quality because the fabric itself is pretty nice, probably not cheap, but just the wrong one for this application.

Only thing I can say is that the cost of manufacturing in the US has certainly increased over time and I know that they don't want to increase the selling price much, so they will leave out some features to keep the selling price lower than it would have been. For example, the shawl collar cinch vests used to have buttoned inside pockets, but they haven't been there in the past 2-3 years. Otherwise the main features are still there, the shape, the shawl, the buttons, the cinch, etc.
post #73 of 1716
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Originally Posted by jack london View Post

Fabrics, buttons and stitching - all diminished in quality over the last few years.
It's a real shame how profit always trumps integrity in the end, I used to love EG.

Really, how can you say that the fabric has went downhill? Do you have any idea how much those Woolrich fabrics are per yard? You're talking $30+ a yard, if not closer to $50. The SS collection was focused on more beach-vibes, and yes those fabrics were more lightweight due to the prints Daiki used. The chambray workshirt this SS was still really solid fabric wise, and I can tell you for sure the construction matches workshirts spanning the last 4 years. The bartacking, triple chain stitching, etc is all identical. I know you're probably speaking of the different buttons on the Bedfords, and just because you may not like them as much - doesn't mean they're necessarily bad. It's just your opinion, and it is valid - but like someone else said if you no longer feel your money is well spent purchasing EG, then do not buy it. In regards to timbo, I will say that the sateen used for the mainline EG fatigues is nice, but it does not fit the bill for those pants - as most people are buying them to mess them up pretty bad. The Workaday fatigues are still the same material (reversed sateen) so I usually advise people to go for those rather than the main line ones.
post #74 of 1716
It is my understanding that the split-ring type buttons from last seasons bedfords were used so that they can be removed prior to cleaning. I don't think it was a cost cutting measure.
post #75 of 1716
I've been selling EG for 9 years and have been wearing it for 10, so I know this
brand well. And the man behind it, well I've known him since 1985. If he knew that this type of shit talk was being spewed about his integrity, he would be deeply hurt.
He is one of the most honorable persons I know in this industry and his team works tirelessly to bring a quality garment to their audience.
With any brand, and I will say that in my over thirty years in this business, there will be an article that fell below their standard. Shit happens and I've seen it with the best.
So, a button falls off, sew it back on. A seam blows out, sew it back up. If it's irreparable, I'll work with you to get a resolution with them. Some will chime in that this has worked and say that EG stepped up.

So, again 18 posts and we need to move on. OK!
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