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Hi, ive been collecting vintage ray bans for a few months, today I received a pair of tortuga aviators 58□14. The bottom of the bar has b&l ray ban 58 □14 on it but the top bar is not clear enough to read - due to the tortoiseshell coating. The glasses are mint apart from a few scratches to the rim and lenses are glass with the appropriate markings. However there is a discrepancy with the positioning of the B&L logos on the lenses. The right lens has the logo above the arm whilst the left logo is about 3mm lower. Is this a sign of a replacement lens or have chinese copies started to include glass lenses? Could really do with some help on this since I havent encountered this on my other bans and am loathe to keep them if thy are indeed fakes. Any help or insight would be very much appreciated.
 

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Are you saying ones higher than the other christmas? One above the hinge, the other below the hinge?

All these collectors coming out the woodwork now. This is great! Welcome to the board sir.
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Don Arif: What did you do with that chromax. Send it back?
 

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christmas. me too ive an avaitor only its an odm. simular coding under the bridge only mine is a 62. etching on glasses are perfectly alligned. and the bridge doesnt have the tortuga coathing...maybe because its an odm...

what is the story on older aviators with germany/france on the earpads? authentic? age? rarity? on one of the first pages of this thread someone mentioned simular thing .
 

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Don Arif: What did you do with that chromax. Send it back?
Don Arif: What did you do with that chromax. Send it back?


hi benn25,

sold to my friend with discount almost 50% from market price.
Currently, we are looking for replacement lense chromax 62mm odm..



Guys, please let me know if you have a pair of chromax lense for sale.


Thanks
don arif
 

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Hi Benn, yes the actual BL etching is at different heights. Only by a couple of mm and only really noticeable if studying them properly.
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I've put a pic on but not very clear. As before do you think this might be a case of a lens being replaced?
 

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Does anyone know what model these are? I have not been able to identify them or find similar model on the internet.
The frame is similar to a Wayfarer, but the temples are thinner.



 

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Scribhneoir: Not 100% sure but they look like Laramie's to me. The original Laramie's. There is a Wayfarer version called the Wayfarer Laramie but they have the Ray-Ban insignia on the side. The originals from the 60/70s they look like to me without the insignia on the sides but instead with the 2 pin spots to front and side. Rare.
 
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Hi Benn, yes the actual BL etching is at different heights. Only by a couple of mm and only really noticeable if studying them properly.

I've put a pic on but not very clear. As before do you think this might be a case of a lens being replaced?

How annoying christmas.
I mean B&L were quite precise with everything they did, so even with a few mm out you could probably say you are right that 'maybe' they have been swapped.
It is a bit odd tbf. Ive just checked all my glasses and every single one is exactly the same height, no exceptions.
Do both sigs follow the 4 part etch?
 

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Yes both insignias are the same, just differently placed. My other bans have the bl in exactly the same place ie on the hinges.
Ive just looked at the bar as well and seen that the top and bottom inscriptions on these - the writing is facing the wearer, whereas on the others, the writing is other way around so canbe read facing the glasses from the front. If anyone else has a few minutes would you be able to check yours as a comparison? My model is the tortuga changeables aviator
 

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All my aviators have 'B&L Ray.......' on the top bar facing the way the wearer is looking, however at the bottom where the size is they face towards the wearer, except for my 70's ones where the sizing is also facing the way the wearer is looking.

Just done a little check on Ebay. Whats amazing is that 4 out of the 7 random checks I did, have the writing on the top bar facing the wearer.
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Just done a check on an archive site and its random which way the writing on the top goes.
Just done a check on the archive site for all Tortuga changeables. They all face the way the wearer is looking. However, Im not sure this proves anything.
 
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Ive just seen on page 8 of this thread that the 50th anniversary ray bans also have the script the same way as my questionable pair. Ill post some pics up, I hope they are genuine because the glasses look . Tyanks for all the help / advice so far.
 

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Checked mine and all which have bl on the side (and not on the top) are well alligned.

Regarding the top bar
Mid 70s glasses (bl on the top of the glasses): not facing the way the wearer is looking. Bottom however is.
Post 80s odm tortuga: as above
Fantasees: as above
Aviator leathers: bottow top bar not facing the way the wearer is looking
Flying colors: are facing the way the wearer looks
Aviator ambermatic: both top and bottom both as the wearer is looking
 

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@christmas, is the BL etching like benn25 existing of 4 parts? E3 and |_

I have a small explorer where BL is like just one part. Can I conclude theyre fake? Or is the 4 part BL etching only related to aviator? :-s
 

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