I used to admire Kobe for his work ethic, how each summer he would practice and come back a better player than before. Compare this with Shaq who basically took the summer off, and the first half of the regualr season. Shaq would actually get in shape for the playoffs through the regular games. But, now, I'm really starting to get pissed at Kobe who's coming off as ungrateful and disloyal to the Lakers. They've dismissed Phil, are willing to trade Shaq, and he's actually thinking about going to the Clippers because they have a stronger nucleus?. Of course, they have a stronger nucleus- the Lakers are getting rid of Shaq. And, now, the Lakers are desperate to trade Shaq now instead of trying to get the best deal for Kobe's sake. This trade talk for Miami is a joke. Banksmiranda: in the picture of MJ's mansion, does he have a guest house. I wasn't sure if those 2 housing structures in front of his house were also his. I'm surprised it doesn't have a golf course attached to it.