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post #31 of 39

It is absolutely the place for that...you're just going about it all wrong. Nobody really wants to hear about what your friends say about what you wear, or how poorly everyone else dresses, or what you've accomplished, or what makes you special. They just want to talk about clothes. And they'll happily talk about your clothes. But they don't want to talk about you, nor read about you.

 

If you really want to become more comfortable with what you wear, head over to the Classic Menswear section or the SW&D for more casual stuff and start posting pictures of the clothing you are wearing in the WAYWRN/WAYWT threads. Provided you post the pictures without any sort of self-serving back story, you'll get mostly constructive criticism without any snark.

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It is absolutely the place for that...you're just going about it all wrong. Nobody really wants to hear about what your friends say about what you wear, or how poorly everyone else dresses, or what you've accomplished, or what makes you special. They just want to talk about clothes. And they'll happily talk about your clothes. But they don't want to talk about you, nor read about you.

 

If you really want to become more comfortable with what you wear, head over to the Classic Menswear section or the SW&D for more casual stuff and start posting pictures of the clothing you are wearing in the WAYWRN/WAYWT threads. Provided you post the pictures without any sort of self-serving back story, you'll get mostly constructive criticism without any snark.

 

Alright you make a lot of valid points and they make sense to me.  I didn't mean for the thread to go in a "me me me" way, my apologies.

 

I'll head over there and try it out then, thanks!

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Alright you make a lot of valid points and they make sense to me.  I didn't mean for the thread to go in a "me me me" way, my apologies.

 

I'll head over there and try it out then, thanks!

Welcome to the forums - and I hope you don't get scared off by some remarks here.

 

For me, I love to hear about the back-story before chiming in on a serious topic.  I am pleased you shared with us your frustration, the type of issues you have encountered, and those great quotes you posted.

 

Many here are attorneys and doctors, and in their profession they need to do a lot more listening than talking - and I choose to take a similar approach.

 

So please continue in this thread you have authored.  You have titled it very well - and because of the title, I was drawn to it.  What would be helpful is to post some images of what you are referring to - and they don't have to be self portraits for us to get an idea of what you are facing.

 

For myself, I was born and raised around Newport Beach, California where style was everywhere.  My neighbors included John Wayne, who always had a hand to waive as we sailed past his corner boat dock.  But "The Duke" wore quality.  And it was the quality that folks admired.  It was also the way he wore that western hat too.

 

Now that I have moved to Western Montana - I still dress a "notch" or two up - with quality attire.  When Bruce Springsteen came to town to visit (not to perform), he hung out with the local crowd. And here was a multi-millionaire, who could afford anything he wanted - but he chose a 100% high quality cotton shirt, great denims, and great leather boots - and also a great watch too.

 

Enough of me . . . let your travels in dialog begin.  I suspect you will be here for many, many more years - so let us get to know you.


David

 

Quote from my previous employer:  "People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care". [ Jim Rohn ]


Edited by David Copeland - 5/4/13 at 6:11am
post #34 of 39
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Welcome to the forums - and I hope you don't get scared off by some remarks here.

 

For me, I love to hear about the back-story before chiming in on a serious topic.  I am pleased you shared with us your frustration, the type of issues you have encountered, and those great quotes you posted.

 

Many here are attorneys and doctors, and in their profession they need to do a lot more listening than talking - and I choose to take a similar approach.

 

So please continue in this thread you have authored.  You have titled it very well - and because of the title, I was drawn to it.  What would be helpful is to post some images of what you are referring to - and they don't have to be self portraits for us to get an idea of what you are facing.

 

For myself, I was born and raised around Newport Beach, California where style was everywhere.  My neighbors included John Wayne, who always had a hand to waive as we sailed past his corner boat dock.  But "The Duke" wore quality.  And it was the quality that folks admired.  It was also the way he wore that western hat too.

 

Now that I have moved to Western Montana - I still dress a "notch" or two up - with quality attire.  When Bruce Springsteen came to town to visit (not to perform), he hung out with the local crowd. And here was a multi-millionaire, who could afford anything he wanted - but he chose a 100% high quality cotton shirt, great denims, and great leather boots - and also a great watch too.

 

Enough of me . . . let your travels in dialog begin.  I suspect you will be here for many, many more years - so let us get to know you.


David

 

Quote from my previous employer:  "People don't car how much you know, until they know how much you care". [ Jim Rohn ]

 

I guess I am also a bit short tempered this week, its the week prior to finals, I have two presentations next week and the one is my big senior project / capstone project which has been months of work.  So things with school right now are bringing my down to being short with people.

 

I understand an outfit that your wearing in itself is a level of expression, so I was trying to better explain the story of whats going on around what I'm wearing.  Glad it makes sense to someone, haha. I'll be sure to post some pictures up tomorrow and see what people thing of my outfits, I am trying to keep things low key and not too outwardly colorful or high contrast.  

 

So Montana, been wanting to move out there actually.  It's been a tossup between several places, that was one since I'm into the outdoors and that place screams to me "outdoors". Just an issue of finding work in my field out that way.

 

By the way, Love that quote you have there!

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post #36 of 39
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For myself, I was born and raised around Newport Beach, California where style was everywhere.  My neighbors included John Wayne, who always had a hand to waive as we sailed past his corner boat dock.  But "The Duke" wore quality.  And it was the quality that folks admired.  It was also the way he wore that western hat too.

Would that I could find someplace where "style is everywhere"! Not so sure about Newport Beach, though. I can recall being down there one day about eight years ago. My wife was getting some sort of beauty treatment prior to our heading over to Fascist Island. To kill a bit of time, I dropped into a bar on PCH for a beer. I was not particularly well dressed: I was wearing a rather tired blazer I had owned for about 13 years and used very hard, a cheap sport shirt from Costco, and a pair of dirt-cheap khakis from Target. The woman tending bar asked, "Are you going to a wedding?" So much for Newport Beach style!

The whole topic of "dressing up in a not so dressed up town" is pretty universal among men who like clothing. I have never been to Manhattan, and it has been many long years since I have set foot in the City of London, Paris, Milan, Rome or Naples, but certainly this "problem" is all but universal just about anywhere in my Southern California stamping grounds. My wife and I often go to South Coast Plaza, probably one of the most upscale shopping centers in the world. Most of the male customers there are dressed about the way I would for doing yard work. Ditto for all but the very, very poshest, most expensive restaurants in the region.

My wife has sometimes complained, "You stick out like a sore thumb." "No," I have replied, "A sore thumb is something inherently unattractive. Rather, like an elegant peacock amid flocks of grubby sparrows and starlings."
post #37 of 39
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Would that I could find someplace where "style is everywhere"! Not so sure about Newport Beach, though. I can recall being down there one day about eight years ago. My wife was getting some sort of beauty treatment prior to our heading over to Fascist Island. To kill a bit of time, I dropped into a bar on PCH for a beer. I was not particularly well dressed: I was wearing a rather tired blazer I had owned for about 13 years and used very hard, a cheap sport shirt from Costco, and a pair of dirt-cheap khakis from Target. The woman tending bar asked, "Are you going to a wedding?" So much for Newport Beach style!

The whole topic of "dressing up in a not so dressed up town" is pretty universal among men who like clothing. I have never been to Manhattan, and it has been many long years since I have set foot in the City of London, Paris, Milan, Rome or Naples, but certainly this "problem" is all but universal just about anywhere in my Southern California stamping grounds. My wife and I often go to South Coast Plaza, probably one of the most upscale shopping centers in the world. Most of the male customers there are dressed about the way I would for doing yard work. Ditto for all but the very, very poshest, most expensive restaurants in the region.

My wife has sometimes complained, "You stick out like a sore thumb." "No," I have replied, "A sore thumb is something inherently unattractive. Rather, like an elegant peacock amid flocks of grubby sparrows and starlings."

 

I would not be surprised on your reflection of Newport Beach and South Coast Plaza (and Fashion Island) around 2005.  My growing up was much earlier - and the fashions were fabulous over the spread of several years when last there.  The Plaza was THE place to go in those days - dressing up with quality clothes and enjoying a beverage one or many indoor sidewalk cafes - watching the people, their clothes.

 

Then my firm chose to leave California altogether (drought, higher taxes, higher workman's comp rates) during the heyday of "Take your business anywhere in the world with phones and internet" - with the blessings and encouragement of the US Chamber of Commerce.

 

My later trips back to my home town and shopping for visits was a HEARTACHE.  And there is no single reason.  Most of all was the invasion of foreign born employees and staff at hotels, restaurants who preferred to speak in their home languages and disregard my wife and I as English speaking American citizens.  And if they did speak English - most of the time I could not understand what they were saying (like calling Dell Computers having someone in India answer the phone to only speak in broken phrases)

 

So yes, my heart goes out to you and your wife.  

 

 

Perhaps the only places left that represents a hint of my home are smaller seaside communities, such as . . . Pebble Beach and Carmel-by-the Sea, California.

post #38 of 39
I'm surrounded by bankers and banking administrators. I see this massive Wildebeastesque herd of boring black shoes, trendy-thin dark pants, and no ties. It reminds me of the Soviet Block worker's uniform. It would be much worse with jeans etc.

Forget what your guy friends say. The ladies thirst for something different. You will see it in their eyes.
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I'm surrounded by bankers and banking administrators. I see this massive Wildebeastesque herd of boring black shoes, trendy-thin dark pants, and no ties. It reminds me of the Soviet Block worker's uniform. It would be much worse with jeans etc.

Forget what your guy friends say. The ladies thirst for something different. You will see it in their eyes.

I used to own boring black shoes which the ladies felt were unbecoming.  Now I own exciting black shoes (along with several other colors in my wardrobe) - which have a personal craftsman touch and style about them - which the ladies LOVE.

 

It all starts with Allen Edmonds website - or Nordstoms and other fine retailers.

 

May your days be filled with passion for quality clothing,


David

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