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Kiton prices: how high can they go?

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When I got into tailored clothing about ten years ago I'd admire the Kiton and Brioni suits at Neiman Marcus that were priced at $3,200. A few years later (2005-6) both were selling for $5,000. Brioni for the most part has stayed there (most suits were $5,500 on my visit to the Vegas boutique in March), but now when I venture into the Kiton boutique prices are $8,300-$9,100. So, what's the ceiling for Kiton? Are they really going to be able to sell RTW for $10,000, or is that the point where people will finally put their collective feet down? What are your thoughts?
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When I got into tailored clothing about ten years ago I'd admire the Kiton and Brioni suits at Neiman Marcus that were priced at $3,200. A few years later (2005-6) both were selling for $5,000. Brioni for the most part has stayed there (most suits were $5,500 on my visit to the Vegas boutique in March), but now when I venture into the Kiton boutique prices are $8,300-$9,100. So, what's the ceiling for Kiton? Are they really going to be able to sell RTW for $10,000, or is that the point where people will finally put their collective feet down? What are your thoughts?

Its supply and demand. Those that want Kiton will buy it regardless of price.
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At those prices, I don't understand why people don't just go bespoke. I think you can get bespoke Rubinacci for less than a RTW Kiton.

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At those prices, I don't understand why people don't just go bespoke. I think you can get bespoke Rubinacci for less than a RTW Kiton.

You can but you probably can't get the fabrics that Kiton uses. They are very nice. Are they $10,000 nice? I'd say no but...
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Its supply and demand. Those that want Kiton will buy it regardless of price.
I'm not certain. I think there has to be a point where the demand curve steepens considerably.
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At those prices, I don't understand why people don't just go bespoke. I think you can get bespoke Rubinacci for less than a RTW Kiton.

Not this again...
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You can but you probably can't get the fabrics that Kiton uses. They are very nice. Are they $10,000 nice? I'd say no but...

Agreed. They have many fabrics that are exclusively made for them so it is impossible to find them anywhere else.

As for construction, I think it is comparable among the good or top tailors. No matter how good a workmanship is, it is still replicable by others. There is a limit to workmanship unless they have some innovative and new construction methods that are not known to man.
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By the way, the last time I heard someone spend $25,000 on a bespoke kiton. Not sure if it is truly bespoke or just MTM. Anyway, Kiton prices can be out of this world.
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By the way, the last time I heard someone spend $25,000 on a bespoke kiton. Not sure if it is truly bespoke or just MTM. Anyway, Kiton prices can be out of this world.

K50, its bespoke.
post #11 of 29
Prices on all Kiton goods seem to have skyrocketed in recent years. Nice stuff though.
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Originally Posted by ylkim30 View Post

At those prices, I don't understand why people don't just go bespoke. I think you can get bespoke Rubinacci for less than a RTW Kiton.

Not everyone wants to wait or go through the process. Many can't visualize what it will look like and would rather see a high-end RTW, get it tailored and walk away.

Not everyone wants to build their own house for the same reason, even though they could. They would much rather fall in love with something they see,buy it and move in. Same thing.
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Not everyone wants to wait or go through the process. Many can't visualize what it will look like and would rather see a high-end RTW, get it tailored and walk away.

Not everyone wants to build their own house for the same reason, even though they could. They would much rather fall in love with something they see,buy it and move in. Same thing.
As someone who has purchased several RTW Kiton suits this is precisely the reason why. With one or two bespoke garments I could probably get the hang of asking for what I wanted and visualizing the fabric swatches turned into clothes, but I don't have the time or interest to travel for multiple fittings. Perhaps if I lived in New York or London I would consider trying Rubinacci, but how my life is right now I can't plan trips back and forth for fittings. Also, by purchasing from Kiton I feel like if things don't turn out the right way they'll do pretty much whatever is required to rectify the situation. I'm not sure that I necessarily trust a smaller operation to do that. That being said, I'm not sure what my plan is if Kiton prices continue to increase at the rate they have been.
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Originally Posted by hopkins_student View Post

When I got into tailored clothing about ten years ago I'd admire the Kiton and Brioni suits at Neiman Marcus that were priced at $3,200. A few years later (2005-6) both were selling for $5,000. Brioni for the most part has stayed there (most suits were $5,500 on my visit to the Vegas boutique in March), but now when I venture into the Kiton boutique prices are $8,300-$9,100. So, what's the ceiling for Kiton? Are they really going to be able to sell RTW for $10,000, or is that the point where people will finally put their collective feet down? What are your thoughts?

There's a special group of idiots in the world who will still buy them.

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There's a special group of idiots in the world who will still buy them.

 

I asked the same question of my tailor who regularly takes alterations on 8k+ RTW suits.  He says those clients A) have the money, and B) don't have the patience for bespoke.  They want something nice now, so they pay a crap ton of money for it because it's a drop in the bucket.

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