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post #136 of 219
She's a statist fuckpig just like most conservatives. I'm really tired of them. They are the exact same thing as the socialist pigfucks they claim to oppose. They all want to spend my money on shit that doesn't help anybody. Fuck them all.
post #137 of 219
Lots of Ann Coulter hate here.

I wonder if any of the folks who dismiss her have even read the book.
post #138 of 219
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This is for Gome and I'm putting it here as it will make him happy: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25205413/broncos-enforce-fart-tax-in-meetings-von-miller-is-fined-most-frequently

Wow, did I get this in the wrong thread. Thought I had put it in the happy thread.
post #139 of 219
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Lots of Ann Coulter hate here.

I wonder if any of the folks who dismiss her have even read the book.

I'm not in Ann Coulter's target audience of conservatives and I don't particularly feel like being enraged, so no, I won't be reading the book.


Unless she's turned over a new leaf (and duh, she hasn't), her books are a known quantity. All the previous ones are full of logical fallacies, bad research hidden behind millions of citations, and lots of specious liberal bashing. Why waste time on that, other than circle-jerking on a subject you're already going to agree with her on?
post #140 of 219
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I'm not in Ann Coulter's target audience of conservatives and I don't particularly feel like being enraged, so no, I won't be reading the book.


Unless she's turned over a new leaf (and duh, she hasn't), her books are a known quantity. All the previous ones are full of logical fallacies, bad research hidden behind millions of citations, and lots of specious liberal bashing. Why waste time on that, other than circle-jerking on a subject you're already going to agree with her on?

This dismissal would have more legs if the liberals weren't saying the exact same thing as she is about immigration. In fact they brag about it.
post #141 of 219
I'm sure.
post #142 of 219
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I'm sure.

Well, there's actual truthiness to that claim in that they do say similar things.

The Right: our current immigration policy is letting in all these non-whites and they're going to vote Dem

The Left: our current immigration policy is not letting enough people in, and isn't it great, they're all likely Dem voters like us!

That's a little glib but actually not all that far from the real conversation from the chattering class.
post #143 of 219
The obvious difference is the "and this is going to destroy America" angle. Much less the "and they're doing deliberately to destroy America" bit that Coulter and her ilk love to layer on top.

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The Left: our current immigration policy is not letting enough people in, and isn't it great, they're all likely Dem voters like us!

How much of "the left" really believes that though? The progressive bit probably does, but I see a bunch of people who are worried about lower class wages and are basically in favor of protectionism. Are union types in favor of immigration?
post #144 of 219
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Are union types in favor of immigration?

Fuck no.

post #145 of 219
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The obvious difference is the "and this is going to destroy America" angle. Much less the "and they're doing deliberately to destroy America" bit that Coulter and her ilk love to layer on top.
How much of "the left" really believes that though? The progressive bit probably does, but I see a bunch of people who are worried about lower class wages and are basically in favor of protectionism. Are union types in favor of immigration?

Union types are most certainly a poisonous mix of socialist, nativist, and protectionism. You can also toss in a nice dose of outright racism.

I don't know how much of the left believes exactly what I said but I mean we have books like this saying just that: http://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Democratic-Majority-John-Judis/dp/0743254783 This book was very well received:
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Political experts John B. Judis and Ruy Teixeira convincingly use hard data -- demographic, geographic, economic, and political -- to forecast the dawn of a new progressive era.

As the link from one of the major players at the NYT said in that link from last page, being white and male is "anarchistic."

As to "deliberately destroy America," well, that's a common trope of both sides. Each constantly accuse the other of that. CU was going to destroy America as an example.
post #146 of 219
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Lots of Ann Coulter hate here.

I wonder if any of the folks who dismiss her have even read the book.


Yeah, it's almost like some of us have judged her on her personal appearances on various tv shows when she goes out to try to sell her books. Stupid us.

Fuck her and fuck you.
post #147 of 219
Yep. That's just like reading the book. TV talk shows are the best source of information anyway. Reading is for nerds.

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Yeah, it's almost like some of us have judged her on her personal appearances on various tv shows when she goes out to try to sell her books. Stupid us.

Fuck her and fuck you.
post #148 of 219
Nerds would read something better than Ann Coulter.
post #149 of 219
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But I only paid $9 to have my lawn mowed!

Si se puente Yes We Can!

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Three MS-13 street-gang members from El Salvador are being held without bail on charges they forced a 16-year-old New York girl into the woods near a golf course, and two of them raped her while the third kept watch.

“This is one of the most brutal, heinous crimes that I have seen in a long, long time,” Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota said at a news conference, according to New York’s WNBC-TV. “This poor young woman is so lucky that, quite frankly, that she is alive. These are vicious young men, vicious young men, and what they did to her was absolutely terrible.”

Spota, who said the attack was “barbaric,” identified the suspects as 17-year-old Jose Cornejo, 18-year-old Bryan Larios and 17-year-old Joel Escobar. All three of the MS-13 gang members, who are from El Salvador, were arrested May 29 just hours after the attack. They are being charged as adults.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/el-salvador-teen-gangsters-barbarically-rape-girl-in-n-y/#z2iuDBIJWmfKrTF6.99
post #150 of 219
It's not often that I find myself thinking that American government should emulate the decisions of the Dominican Republic, but I have to say that they have the right idea about immigration.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-haitians-dominican-republic-deportations-human-rights-20150619-story.html
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